AMD VEGA confirmed for 2017 H1

queamin · 14 Feb 2017 at 22:50

The 1060/480 were priced quite high at launch some almost hitting £300 which they could do because of the 1070/80 higher prices.

LoadsaMoney · 14 Feb 2017 at 22:51

Im getting confused (which isn't hard

), basically, i just don't know why people keep saying the 1080 is too expensive, when its cheaper than the 980 Ti was (as some are only £540, the Ti was £550+), it has 2GB more vram, and rips it a new'un.

Spyhop · 14 Feb 2017 at 22:53

It's probably just the time period I was most into hardware, but in my mind the top end graphics card = £300 to £400 max, simple.

Seeing stuff these days like a 1060, which is *multiple* notches below the top end, and yet can cost into the £3xx's ... still causes a double-take every time.

TheRealDeal · 14 Feb 2017 at 22:55

LoadsaMoney said:
Im getting confused (which isn't hard ), basically, i just don't know why people keep saying the 1080 is too expensive, when its cheaper than the 980 Ti was (as some are only £540, the Ti was £550+) has 2GB more vram, and rips it a new'un.

Well it doesn't rip it a new'un for being a year newer and a die shrink. That would be Titan Pascal. Most decent gtx1080's were more expensive with some touching close to £700.

queamin · 14 Feb 2017 at 23:02

Yes normally a die shrink get you a lot more performance for around the same cash and that is what people expected I think and the problem is with 480 is about equal to a 390/x which was selling at around the 250 mark at 480/1060 launch.

FoxEye · 14 Feb 2017 at 23:46

queamin said:
So you saying every time a card is faster it should cost more even across different generations so with that, in a few years even a 1260 will cost £600 if it is faster than a 1080 and 1280 will be what 1100 if it beats a titan X?.

As cards get faster they increase in prices is that what you saying.

Yeah that's basically what he, and others, are saying. Every new gen should be more expensive than the last, if it performs better. Because, think of the poor, starving CEOs.

Gregster · 15 Feb 2017 at 00:49

easyrider said:
I can't compete with Gregster

He's too good looking

I guess you have had quite a few beers?

easyrider · 15 Feb 2017 at 00:49

Gregster said:
I guess you have had quite a few beers?

You're a defo six pinter

Baboonanza · 15 Feb 2017 at 06:47

A bromance! Now this thread has seen everything.

Apart from actual Vega news obviously

nashathedog · 15 Feb 2017 at 07:35

TheRealDeal said:
Still rewarding Nvidia with a sale when there pricing was stupidly high for a year. Any how a gtx1080 really is not much of an upgrade from the 980ti if yours overclocks really well. The ti might be though and i have a feeling Nvidia will be countering before Vega is released with a pPascal refresh.

That'd certainly knock the stuffing out of Vega's release, It's what they did with the 980ti which released just before the Fiji cards so it makes sense that they'd do it again.

Baboonanza said:
A bromance! Now this thread has seen everything.

Apart from actual Vega news obviously

SiDeards73 · 15 Feb 2017 at 07:43

So it looks like a Polaris refresh coming with Vega 10 & 11 being the higher end GPUs? Interesting.

Atleast AMD should swell the coffers somewhat soon with mass CPU sales, hopefully they will funnel some of that cash to RTG

nashathedog · 15 Feb 2017 at 07:51

SiDeards73 said:
So it looks like a Polaris refresh coming with Vega 10 & 11 being the higher end GPUs? Interesting.

Atleast AMD should swell the coffers somewhat soon with mass CPU sales, hopefully they will funnel some of that cash to RTG

Now that the development of the new cpu architecture and hardware is done the pressures off a bit so let's hope so.

Griffildur · 15 Feb 2017 at 08:09

TheRealDeal said:
Well it doesn't rip it a new'un for being a year newer and a die shrink. That would be Titan Pascal. Most decent gtx1080's were more expensive with some touching close to £700.

you know very well that prices went up like crazy after Brexit and we had to deal with some price gouging as well which was not really NVidia's fault. On launch however you could buy decent 1080's for around 600 ( my Zotac Amp Extreme was £619 for example and I had a thread about its price evolution after brexit), now you can get some just a tad over 500. And by the way, before I decided to buy a 1080 I looked at the competition as well and I was left godsmacked when I saw Fury with 4 gb of memory over 500, and another double GPU card over 1000. That sure made my choice easier ...

Gregster · 15 Feb 2017 at 08:27

easyrider said:
You're a defo six pinter

Baboonanza said:
A bromance! Now this thread has seen everything.

Apart from actual Vega news obviously

Spot on - Everything bar actual solid news

Rezident · 15 Feb 2017 at 09:23

Griffildur said:
you know very well that prices went up like crazy after Brexit and we had to deal with some price gouging as well which was not really NVidia's fault. On launch however you could buy decent 1080's for around 600 ( my Zotac Amp Extreme was £619 for example and I had a thread about its price evolution after brexit), now you can get some just a tad over 500. And by the way, before I decided to buy a 1080 I looked at the competition as well and I was left godsmacked when I saw Fury with 4 gb of memory over 500, and another double GPU card over 1000. That sure made my choice easier ...

Nvidia's pricing is not Nvidia's fault!? I've heard it all now. Nvidia's pricing has nothing to do with Brexit or exchange rates, which would have simply affected prices in the UK - across the board - and not just for Nvidia products, obviously. Seriously, do you think their cards are going for reasonable prices outside the UK?

JediFragger · 15 Feb 2017 at 10:33

easyrider said:
You're a defo six pinter

If the Mann is 6 then I'm about a 300

KillBoY_UK · 15 Feb 2017 at 10:45

Rezident said:
Nvidia's pricing is not Nvidia's fault!? I've heard it all now.

Sorry but if you think it has no effect then well I dunno what to say to that. It both a combination of the value of the pound dropping 15-18% (or have you ignored the price rises in RAM/monitors/SSD as they are all brought in USD) and the lack of competition.

Freddie1980 · 15 Feb 2017 at 10:57

KillBoY_UK said:
Sorry but if you think it has no effect then well I dunno what to say to that. It both a combination of the value of the pound dropping 15-18% (or have you ignored the price rises in RAM/monitors/SSD as they are all brought in USD) and the lack of competition.

In other words not a good time to be upgrading your PC.

N19h7m4r3 · 15 Feb 2017 at 11:03

KillBoY_UK said:
Sorry but if you think it has no effect then well I dunno what to say to that. It both a combination of the value of the pound dropping 15-18% (or have you ignored the price rises in RAM/monitors/SSD as they are all brought in USD) and the lack of competition.

That must explain why the GTX 1080 launched more expensive in the rest of the EU compared to the EVGA 980ti Superlocked cards did as well.

Brexit obviously caused NVIDIA to charge €789 for the 1080 on launch in Germany.
Where as on launch for the 980Ti I paid €769 for the Superclocked editions.

I can't understand how anyone can justify a 980 replacement costing more than the previous Ti top end consumer card.

TheRealDeal · 15 Feb 2017 at 11:09

N19h7m4r3 said:
That must explain why the GTX 1080 launched more expensive in the rest of the EU compared to the EVGA 980ti Superlocked cards did as well.

Brexit obviously caused NVIDIA to charge €789 for the 1080 on launch in Germany.
Where as on launch for the 980Ti I paid €769 for the Superclocked editions.

I can't understand how anyone can justify a 980 replacement costing more than the previous Ti top end consumer card.

I can it's called pure madness lol. These guys ain't even stupid but will accept it because well just because. I expect it from the people who have not got a clue but on here it just shows the uphill battle if the prices are ever to be decent again.