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Well, if you think they are too expensive, then don't buy them, as ive said before, if you just leave them on the shelves collecting dust, then Nvidia would sharp drop the prices, but you wont, so at the end of the day, its your fault, not Brexit, not Nvidias, yours.
 
LoadsaMoney said:
Well, if you think they are too expensive, then don't buy them, as ive said before, if you just leave them on the shelves collecting dust, then Nvidia would sharp drop the prices, but you wont, so at the end of the day, its your fault, not Brexit, not Nvidias, yours.
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Well yea that is basically it. The only people who have a right to complain are those that don't support the prices by coughing up.
 
LoadsaMoney said:
Well, if you think they are too expensive, then don't buy them, as ive said before, if you just leave them on the shelves collecting dust, then Nvidia would sharp drop the prices, but you wont, so at the end of the day, its your fault, not Brexit, not Nvidias, yours.
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That's exactly what I did. I even sold my two 980Tis two weeks before the 1080 was announced, as I wanted to pick up the top most card.

Ended up getting a Fury X for barely more than the RX 480 Devil was on pre-order. Going to see what Vega brings now.
 
LoadsaMoney said:
Well, if you think they are too expensive, then don't buy them, as ive said before, if you just leave them on the shelves collecting dust, then Nvidia would sharp drop the prices, but you wont, so at the end of the day, its your fault, not Brexit, not Nvidias, yours.
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Pretty much what I did. I was ready to upgrade my 970 to a 1070 with a nice new 1440p monitor. Then I saw the prices and voted with my wallet by not buying either and still haven't. I was willing to pay what I paid for my 970 on release with up to a +£20 difference but alas that didn't happen and they still haven't dropped to that so I won't buy one. People need willpower
 
triss said:
Everyone has the right to complain. Just because people use/buy something doesnt mean they are happy with it.
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Nah if i ain't happy i ain't supporting it end of story. If you buy then you are inforcing the price whether you like it or not. You then become part of the problem. If you are part of the problem then suck it up and shhh.

N19h7m4r3 said:
That's exactly what I did. I even sold my two 980Tis two weeks before the 1080 was announced, as I wanted to pick up the top most card.

Ended up getting a Fury X for barely more than the RX 480 Devil was on pre-order. Going to see what Vega brings now.
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A man with morals. This is what i like to see. We need more of this and by that i mean a lot more lol.

Amd bringing out a great performing card at decent prices can't hurt either.
 
LoadsaMoney said:
Well, if you think they are too expensive, then don't buy them, as ive said before, if you just leave them on the shelves collecting dust, then Nvidia would sharp drop the prices, but you wont, so at the end of the day, its your fault, not Brexit, not Nvidias, yours.
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Pretty much this, something is only worth what people are willing to pay for it, don't like the price then don't buy, graphics cards are only for playing games so no real importance
 
Didn't all this start a few years back when Nvidia had some high end card (can't remember which one) that was difficult to produce and had very poor yields? With only a few thousand to sell, Nvidia actually raised prices in order to limit sales, but to ensure it looked like it was available to buy. I'm sure Nvidia was as surprised as anyone when the exclusivity and rarity meant all units were snapped up by people with a lot of cash who wanted the fastest chip, money no object.

Since then, we've seen Nvidia push the same technique, forcing prices ever higher. It's like DeBeers controlling the diamond market and setting whatever prices it wants, because there will always be people out there who will pay crazy money to get what is perceived as the top performer. It's almost like Nvidia inadvertently found out how to troll the market, and found it still works. A number of people will pay a high price for the high end.

If AMD follow this route with Vega, there will be a lot of people who simply won't upgrade to higher cards, and will if necessary move down the product stack till they hit the price-point they are willing to pay. Most people probably can't afford a graphics card in the £500+ market segment.
 
Steampunk said:
Most people probably can't afford a graphics card in the £500+ market segment.
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You say that but look at Nvidia's sales figures having gone through the roof. £500+ GPUs clearly sell in huge numbers. That doesn't mean there aren't a countless number of people who can't afford it, but what do Nvidia (or AMD) care if they are seeing product fly off the shelf and their profits rise?? They answer is, of course, that they care not one bit lol! It's not like they don't have cheaper cards catering for those with lighter wallets. It is a business at the end of the day, and goods are priced based on what the market will bear.
 
In my opinion it would help if you guys looked at the dollar price of the cards when discussing whether the price has gone up a lot or not when blaming a company. The cards are purchased from retailers here in $$$ so it has nothing to do with a company how much out £ buys or what VAT we get charged.

Back in 2008 when I got my Radeon 4870 it was super cheap due to lower VAT and much better pound to dollar conversion rate.

In addition to this over the years Nvidia have obviously got better at determining the Price Elasticity Of Demand for their graphics cards.
 
CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Nvidia can price the cards the way they want to since it is a one horse market above £300 currently.
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'Currently' being the operative word. VEGA will of course change that, but where exactly the VEGA line-up will fall in the performance bracket between the 1070, 1080 and 1080Ti, AND how AMD choose to price it are the big questions at present. Their price tactics on Ryzen perhaps offer a promising clue, but I think it is wishful thinking to believe they will be as aggressive in the GPU sector. But we can dream... ;)
 
Possibly even against Vega with the "Apple" like effect - as one of the nVidia guys said awhile back their core customer base pretty much just opens their wallet and they've not hit yet the highest prices the market will bare.
 
LoadsaMoney said:
Im getting confused (which isn't hard :p), basically, i just don't know why people keep saying the 1080 is too expensive, when its cheaper than the 980 Ti was (as some are only £540, the Ti was £550+), it has 2GB more vram, and rips it a new'un.
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You've been confused on the topic from the start.:p

Product stack replacement, isn't a performance replacement-it's always been so(unless it's a Fury getting spanked by a 390)

Like for like with the exception of 780(the only other recent time there was no competition), Nv's pricing is like watching Yazz reprising "The only way is up":p
 
Legend said:
'Currently' being the operative word. VEGA will of course change that, but where exactly the VEGA line-up will fall in the performance bracket between the 1070, 1080 and 1080Ti, AND how AMD choose to price it are the big questions at present. Their price tactics on Ryzen perhaps offer a promising clue, but I think it is wishful thinking to believe they will be as aggressive in the GPU sector. But we can dream... ;)
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If 480 is anything to go by, i doubt it.
 
Legend said:
You say that but look at Nvidia's sales figures having gone through the roof. £500+ GPUs clearly sell in huge numbers. That doesn't mean there aren't a countless number of people who can't afford it, but what do Nvidia (or AMD) care if they are seeing product fly off the shelf and their profits rise?? They answer is, of course, that they care not one bit lol! It's not like they don't have cheaper cards catering for those with lighter wallets. It is a business at the end of the day, and goods are priced based on what the market will bear.
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You just have to look at those sloshing £1,100 on a TP card (usually even more due to buying watercooling plate etc) If there is a card there that is expensive,, then you'll get those that buy it, no matter how much it'll cost.
 
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