AMD VEGA confirmed for 2017 H1

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 3 Apr 2017 at 15:10

humbug said:
Nope

LoadsaMoney said:

At least we have more overclocked RX480 cards!!

Wrinkly · 3 Apr 2017 at 16:12

JediFragger said:
If nVidia supported Freesync I'd drive down to OcUK right now and get a 1080Ti

This. I don't think Nvidia have the hardware to do it yet as Pascal really is just a die shrunk and tweaked Maxwell.

nashathedog · 3 Apr 2017 at 16:54

LoadsaMoney said:
AMD Radeon RX 500 Series Coming in April Features Vega 10 & 11

http://www.sciencetimes.com/article...eries-coming-in-april-features-vega-10-11.htm

Beren said:
LMFAO you know there is no news when another news site quotes wccf as a source... Hopefully now the 1080ti is in the wild Vega can release knowing what they are up against...

It's one of those yes it is no it isn't articles that was written by a scitsophrenic who can't agree with himself.

LoadsaMoney · 3 Apr 2017 at 19:36

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
At least we have more overclocked RX480 cards!!

opethdisciple · 3 Apr 2017 at 19:51

The fact AMD are seemingly going to release a 580 and a 570 makes me think that Vega is only going to be ultra high end. Maybe 1070 - 1080ti range.

Leaving 580, 570 and maybe 560 for the mid to low end.

I'm definitely in the market for a new GPU as an upgrade from my 970 and I think I'm ready to give AMD a go this time round.

If I can get an AMD GPU at 1070 speeds for around £300 that would be perfect.

Saying that it needs to be good at 1440p as might need a new monitor too.

Willir · 3 Apr 2017 at 20:06

I can't see a huge leap from the 480s to the 580s tbh, maybe a small difference in core clocks and stuff but hopefully they are at a nice price. That's unless AMD surprise everyone and drop bombs and the 580 is a beast. Who knows we will soon find out.

Gregster · 3 Apr 2017 at 20:16

So are AMD rebranding the 480/470?

JediFragger · 3 Apr 2017 at 20:46

Gregster said:
So are AMD rebranding the 480/470?

Yup.

TNA · 3 Apr 2017 at 21:27

opethdisciple said:
Vega is only going to be ultra high end.

SiDeards73 · 3 Apr 2017 at 21:30

The 5xx series are starting to appear on vendor sites around the world, https://hardwaresfera.com/tienda-on...si-rx-580-gaming-x-8g-msi-rx-580-armor-8g-oc/ also check https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/638k5f/msi_580_gaming_x_price_in_vietnam/

Prices seem to be around the £260 - £275 mark, so roughly around the price of the 480's before their recent price drops?

LoadsaMoney · 3 Apr 2017 at 22:22

SiDeards73 said:
Prices seem to be around the £260 - £275 mark

TonyTurbo78 · 3 Apr 2017 at 22:35

TonyTurbo78 said:
no chance for £200 RX580. Will come in closer to £300 mark I imagine.

TNA said:
U w0t m8!

o.O

What next, the RX 560 £200? You must have been spending too much time in the Nvidia forum or something

TNA said:
The only way it is closer to £300 is if it is close to 1070 performance. If not then makes no sense. No idea what Turboman Tony was thinking with that comment

TonyTurbo78 said:
It's going to come in around £275 I bet. Just watch, as it's performance is going to be better than expected...all hail AMD resurgence lmao.

And yeah I'm getting giddy, all this looking at £700 1080ti prices.

mahius said:
I doubt the RX 580 will get close enough to a 1070 to justify such a price tag. The only thing this means is, get your amazing value RX 480s right now while you still can. Before the rebrand costs you like £100 more. And those £700 1080ti prices are ...odd. The MSI Gaming X 1080ti alone put a frown on my face. So sad MSI have gone down this path since 1000 series...

Called it will come in around 275 mark weeks. Obviously could still be total BS but I still think the top 5x series card will fall between 275 and 300. 1070 prices are shy of £400, so it makes sense to price it a £100 cheaper. I just can't see it being even close to 1070 levels of performance.

silversurfer · 3 Apr 2017 at 22:54

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
At least we have more overclocked RX480 cards!!

Doesnt this underline where Vega performance and price must be. If its less then twice as fast and more then twice the cost, its kinda pointless right :confused:

Seanspeed said:
I'm not expecting a liquid cooling situation like with Fury X. That was a 600mm² card at the very end of the 28nm generation pushing things basically as far as they could go(or AMD could go...).

Vega is supposed to bring efficiency improvements over Polaris, along with having a supposedly improved process as a basis. And it's unlikely to much more than 450-500mm². Unless HBM requires specific, special cooling, I cant imagine an air cooler wouldn't be enough.

Sounds good, Ive wrestled with 2900gt or similar or too often to want a rematch now

opethdisciple · 3 Apr 2017 at 23:19

My hope is that AMD can do what they've done with Ryzen with Vega. I.e enthusiast features at consumer prices.

My only concern is HBM2 is expensive.

And if the 580 is coming in at around £300, then that leave Vega and maybe Big Vega at £400 - £600.

Scougar · 4 Apr 2017 at 00:34

Oh dear. Think I might keep my 1070 then.

TNA · 4 Apr 2017 at 05:24

TonyTurbo78 said:
Called it will come in around 275 mark weeks. Obviously could still be total BS but I still think the top 5x series card will fall between 275 and 300. 1070 prices are shy of £400, so it makes sense to price it a £100 cheaper. I just can't see it being even close to 1070 levels of performance.

Still think it will easily be had for under £250

SiDeards73 · 4 Apr 2017 at 06:30

I still think we will see 2-3 Vega cards ontop of the Polaris refresh

Small Vega - £380 - between 1070 & 1080 in Perf possibly with GDDR5X

Big Vega - £500 - between 1080 - TitanXP perf - HBM2

X2 Vega - £1000 - 2 big Vegas bolted together like a pro duo / 295x2 etc

h4rm0ny · 4 Apr 2017 at 08:20

LoadsaMoney said:
That April fools was terrible, at least make it look convincing, but double Nvidias performance, just lol, spotted that was a load of crap from a country mile, should have said it was double slower, then it would have been believed

The only thing that intrigued me by the end of it was if it was WCCFTech's own April Fool or if they'd been taken in by someone else's and reposted it. I mean, it's WCCFTech - it's a fair question.

Seanspeed · 4 Apr 2017 at 09:26

SiDeards73 said:
I still think we will see 2-3 Vega cards ontop of the Polaris refresh

Small Vega - £380 - between 1070 & 1080 in Perf possibly with GDDR5X

Big Vega - £500 - between 1080 - TitanXP perf - HBM2

X2 Vega - £1000 - 2 big Vegas bolted together like a pro duo / 295x2 etc

Agree with those predictions except for the last one. Neither AMD nor Nvidia are really spending any time talking about multi-GPU in their presentations anymore. I think both will move away from it barring some breakthrough in tech or drivers/API's.

I also think they'll have to do a *bit* better on price for small Vega, unless you're talking expected 3rd party card prices and not MSRP. £200 for a 580 would give them plenty of room to price a small Vega 590 around £320 or so. You dont want to leave too big a gap there as its prime for Nvidia to slot the 1070 down in a more favorable price position.

EXxx · 4 Apr 2017 at 09:56

SiDeards73 said:
I still think we will see 2-3 Vega cards ontop of the Polaris refresh

Small Vega - £380 - between 1070 & 1080 in Perf possibly with GDDR5X

Big Vega - £500 - between 1080 - TitanXP perf - HBM2

X2 Vega - £1000 - 2 big Vegas bolted together like a pro duo / 295x2 etc

one part seems very unlikely. The GDDR5X part. If they are based on the same chip (which they should!), ALL Vega counterparts will have HBM2. Seems likely that the vega11 will have less and Vega10 will have more of it.
As to performance it's anyone's guess. A x2 part is likely (given AMD's background) but if memory doesn't fail me, that version will appear a bit later.