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AMD VEGA confirmed for 2017 H1

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SiDeards73 said:
X2 Vega - £1000 - 2 big Vegas bolted together like a pro duo / 295x2 etc
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Taking into account that the Pro Duo costs £1100 today and more when released (can't remember so making that presumption) if there is a dual Vega card I think it'll be marketed as a work card like the Pro Duo is and it'll be priced considerably higher, In the £1500-1700 area.
 
AMD's biggest problem is they look like they will finally be competing against the 1070/1080 (ti?) but those cards, barring the ti, will have been out a year. Very easy for Nvidia to just reduce their prices if they see sales stalling.

Vega sounds interesting, more re-brands really not so much.
 
Gregster said:
So are AMD rebranding the 480/470?
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JediFragger said:
Yup.
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I don't like the fact that as well as missing out on a 400 series high end it looks like the refreshes will come before the 500 series high end,
After all this waiting they better not stagger the Vega release's with the big one coming last and Vega better be a beast after all the marketing stuff such as implying Volta will be in trouble.
 
nashathedog said:
I don't like the fact that as well as missing out on a 400 series high end it looks like the refreshes will come before the 500 series high end,
After all this waiting they better not stagger the Vega release's with the big one coming last and Vega better be a beast after all the marketing stuff such as implying Volta will be in trouble.
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Rebrands are not uncommon and a viable option for those looking to buy GPUs and they generally have 'tweaks' to make them better than the previous generation (looking back to the GTX 480/580, it was a massive win for the 580). Hopefully prices will be sensible and as you say, come in with Vega launching time frames.
 
Gregster said:
Rebrands are not uncommon and a viable option for those looking to buy GPUs and they generally have 'tweaks' to make them better than the previous generation (looking back to the GTX 480/580, it was a massive win for the 580). Hopefully prices will be sensible and as you say, come in with Vega launching time frames.
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There's nothing wrong with a good rebrand, I think Grenada was a good rebrand although that's possibly due in part to there never being any reference cards released to show it at it's worst as Hawaii was. I just feel that Vega should release before them seeing as we had no Vega last time.
 
JediFragger said:
Yup.
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err not exactly.

RX580 has faster GDDR5 and not only higher speed but faster gbps per pin chips even than the one's used on the 1070 , is manufactured with LPP process not LPE, allowing higher clocks, lower consumption,while the IPC is stronger.

So is like comparing IvyBridge to Haswel, in Intel terms.
 
Hmm if the below is correct, and that 1500mhz is a base boost out of the box, thats not too bad at all for a refresh, wonder if they will have any surplus headroom left to push further? wouldnt be suprised if they were already close to the limit.

Wonder if its possible to work out roughly their performance given what we already know about Polaris?

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Panos said:
err not exactly.

RX580 has faster GDDR5 and not only higher speed but faster gbps per pin chips even than the one's used on the 1070 , is manufactured with LPP process not LPE, allowing higher clocks, lower consumption,while the IPC is stronger.

So is like comparing IvyBridge to Haswel, in Intel terms.
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Guess we'll see soon enough! Hopefully the clockboost will be worth refreshing them :cool:
 
Panos said:
err not exactly.

RX580 has faster GDDR5 and not only higher speed but faster gbps per pin chips even than the one's used on the 1070 , is manufactured with LPP process not LPE, allowing higher clocks, lower consumption,while the IPC is stronger.

So is like comparing IvyBridge to Haswel, in Intel terms.
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Is there actually a confirmed source for Polaris being 14LPE? - seems a couple of people started a rumour and everyone else had just run with the idea - but it would be very unusual to produce devices over 100mm2, higher density and higher than nominal voltage on an LPE type process.

GF switched over to full 14LPP production about the time Polaris went to production and its been talked about by other companies using it for SoCs, etc. that it was initially plagued with unstable yields and clock speeds around 20% down on Samsung's 14LPP process.

https://www.globalfoundries.com/new...logy-success-for-next-generation-amd-products

Tends to suggest Polaris being LPE is a load of rubbish.
 
I hope we get Vega with Prey on Prey's release and not as we are with Doom where it's offered months after everyones already bought it.


Rroff said:
Is there actually a confirmed source for Polaris being 14LPE? - seems a couple of people started a rumour and everyone else had just run with the idea
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Nothing unusual there, How many times have you seen silly claims made on this forum just to see them repeated by someone weeks later like they're facts? It usually goes "Er I don't remember where I read it but apparently so and so is capable of this and that."
 
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opethdisciple said:
but just a Dishonored reskin
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Not necessarily a bad thing - the original Dishonored was great to play if they have as good movement and other basic mechanics which that game mostly got spot on (though the gun and sword play was a bit meh but you weren't really intended to go all out shooting).
 
nashathedog said:
I hope we get Vega with Prey on Prey's release and not as we are with Doom where it's offered months after everyones already bought it.




Nothing unusual there, How many times have you seen silly claims made on this forum just to see them repeated by someone weeks later like they're facts? It usually goes "Er I don't remember where I read it but apparently so and so is capable of this and that."
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Prey is the Vega starting title, it will not be released until Vega. They will come tied together.
 
Rroff said:
Is there actually a confirmed source for Polaris being 14LPE? - seems a couple of people started a rumour and everyone else had just run with the idea - but it would be very unusual to produce devices over 100mm2, higher density and higher than nominal voltage on an LPE type process.

GF switched over to full 14LPP production about the time Polaris went to production and its been talked about by other companies using it for SoCs, etc. that it was initially plagued with unstable yields and clock speeds around 20% down on Samsung's 14LPP process.

https://www.globalfoundries.com/new...logy-success-for-next-generation-amd-products

Tends to suggest Polaris being LPE is a load of rubbish.
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Polaris has always been 14nm LPP. It's most likely that they're just using a more refined version of the process or maybe even the newer 14nm LPU which is supposed to give better clock speeds and power consumption over 14nm LPP.
 
Yeah GF revised their 14LPP a few months back now - some people unofficially calling it 14LPP+ lol - I don't think GF has LPU? unless that is what their revision to LPP actually is.
 
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