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AMD VEGA confirmed for 2017 H1

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D.P. said:
Ironically Deep learning is largely constrained by half-precision FP16 performance (and in some cases even Int8), FP64 would never be used for deep learning. that is why a big performance gain for Vega is enabling double speed half-precision FP performance. Double precision is important in many other applications of GP-GPU/HPC.

I have a feeling that in the future Nvidia will actually separate out a new ASIC for deep-learning that focuses on FP16, int8 and FP32 performance without the FP64 hardware. Strip away more of the graphics functionality, and concentrate on pure efficiency. Google's deep-learning accelerator and Intel's new FPGA offerings are a big threat to nvidia.
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I was thinking the same. A more specialised design makes a lot of sense, and NVIDIA certainly have the R&D and money to do that, while having the separate Quadro and GeForce lines without issue.

Will be interesting to see what AMD talk about in regards to RadeonPro come Saturday at the NAB Show; since they're partnering with Dell and HP there. Might shed some light on Vega, even if it's the Pro line.
 
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Could it be why they've released their 400s again, as it does seem odd, putting them back out again, when Vega is supposedly only a couple of weeks away.

Could be why they just upped the number to a 5, to tide them over, and as everyone says, these are the cards where the sales are, and the market is. :p
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A likely possible explanation is that AMD like what they have in Vega and therefore Polaris will be very short lived. So they're milking everything they can get out of it, because soon after Vega 10/11 we will have a Vega 12 that replaces Polaris?
 
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humbug said:
Because you're always wrong, have you ever thought about that?
They are still there, just disabled, as i said they are the same silicone, they don't have two separate production lines for gaming and workstation cards, the gaming cards just have some feature disabled or gimped.
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If I am wrong then so is AMD. Somehow I expect the manufacturer of the GPU to actually know what they did.
 
Another thing, why go for a full on 'new card launch' just for an overclock, if Vega is only a couple of weeks away, they've had a new launch date, had a new presentation, with new slides, been resent back out to reviewers to be reviewed again, and those new reviews all posted on the new launch day, when the new NDA is up, and why have they been changed from 4 series to 5 series, and had their prices whacked up by £50/£100, where as Nvidia, no fuss at all, no upping of prices, no new launch date, no reviewing again, no upping from 10 series to 11 series, just silently filtering through those now as we speak, as chances are, you buy a 1060/1080 now, you'll get a one with the faster memory.
 
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The MSRP for the RX 580 is $239 though, $10 less than the 8GB RX 480.

So it seems retailers are taking the mick again; have you seen that mental price of the Asus Strix RX 580? It's over £300.
 
LoadsaMoney said:
... where as Nvidias refresh, no fuss at all, no upping of prices, no new launch date, no reviewing again, no upping from 10 series to 11 series, just silently filtering through those now as we speak, as chances are, you buy a 1060/1080 now, you'll get a one with the faster memory.
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Well, as far as making some fuss goes, it's been discussed already: the big/popular sites don't update reviews and if you search for them, you come away with the impression that the 480 is slower than the 1060 and can damage your motherboard due to some power issue.

Nvidia have no reason to tell the average Joe "that's not entirely true" now do they?

If all it takes to get reviewers to re-bench with post Re-Live drivers is to slap a sticker on it that reads "580" then so be it.
 
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This is how much they are now, after being out nearly a year.
They've gone up in price, not down.

Look at the Asus 480 Strix price now, its £320!!! :eek: :D
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Good ole rip off UK!

There are RX 480 8GB aftermarket cards the 2016 MRSP of around £209.

Interestingly about the Asus Strix, it was also over £300 for their RX 480 version for the first few months. Some are really trying to cash in it seems.

Especially since the MSRP of the RX 580 is supposed to be $239, compared to the 480 8GB's $249.
 
Vega isnt intended for gaming? Says who? You lot? Its intended for what ever amd say its intended for and they are marketing it as a gaming card. In thay case the 1080ti, titan x and titanxp are not intended for gaming. Titan x was not intended for gaming and everyone knows the 1080ti is the same gpu essentially with faster memory. Titan xp is the full chip which is also not inteded for gaming. Yet they release drivers that improve gaming peformance? Ofc vega is inteded for gaming from a consumer end.
 
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