AMD VEGA confirmed for 2017 H1

[mahius]

@opethdisciple Keep your expections low and then you won't be disappointed

That's how I roll, I expect not to buy a GPU this year at all...

Although the 480 didn't convincingly beat the old 970 it's now crushing it in the form of a 580. With AMD you have to look at release performance and add on 10-20% to get where the card will be later on

I don't quite agree. Even from AdoredTV's video comparing recent 480 performance vs 480 at launch, it's not quite 20%. Maybe 10% at most in the best cases. And I'd say the 480 did a better job at 'crushing a 970' than the 580 currently does. Especially last month, 970 level performance at half what it used to cost.

So you only want NVIDIA producing consumer graphics cards? Gotcha.

Time to grab lay the old PCs to rest and go the way consoles if that were the case. Heck, if it ever happened, I bet consoles would eventually catch up due to lackluster price/performance gain from a single company making the only products. Which is why I wish we had a 3rd party in this 2-horse race. Compeition is always good. Look at Intel scrambling now that Ryzen has launched.

 

[silversurfer]

Probably smart not to buy this year as you get both the lower price and maybe better drivers, the dust settles but thats not a choice unless at comfortable point now. My 290 or similar hardware is no more and I'm stuck on the previous generation to that even which is not good on any current game. Right now I'll be switching from a dx10 card to this so I'd really appreciate AMD actually hitting the mark first try this time

Why is that a fail? As long as Prey runs well on Vega when Vega arrives its surely a win. How can you possibly not think that is a good thing if it turns out to be true?

Its reasonable to say it is late at that point maybe, if the intention had been for a release with Prey then by how much are they late or is there consequence to being late as is something not working out as hoped like chip yields or performance maybe, power issues. If they showed it working ages ago and no instability was observed, bigger problems seem unlikely I guess.

In addition to its lower CPU usage, Vulkan is also able to better distribute work amongst multiple CPU cores

If they just prove really good at Vulkan and that standard is working its best on multiple platforms that'd be great, I have 8 cores I want games to be going that direction and it to be easier to for them to do so. I dont mind if they arent perfect otherwise, game development should be further ahead then it is right now and there could be so many more things occuring in a game to make it an active world but its all trimmed back and made linear too often.
If AMD allow better use of resources then thats the right course not getting stuck on dx11 figures for games made years ago, of course that matters to people for their favourite games but if AMD is going to be forward looking then that'd be nice to see and hopefully game devs match and use that

 

[LoadsaMoney]

Prey is supposed to be using some of Vega' tech, so it would be a fail tbh if the card doesn't come at the same time, as by the time it does come, everyone will already have finished it, and with the specs needed to run it being pretty low, they'll have played it fine without the need for a Vega.

 

[AlamoX]

Prey is supposed to be using some of Vega' tech, so it would be a fail tbh if the card doesn't come at the same time, as by the time it does come, everyone will already have finished it.

doesn't make sense for the card to come at the same time as the game, these are 2 different products from different companies with different responsabilities.
you cannot sit on a high tech product waiting for a game, nor can EA delay battlefield untill an AMD gpu releases, your post is utter none sense, or move the product ahead, that's lol...
if vega comes first they will offer pre-order keys, if it comes later it offers actual keys...thats about it.
i do not understand how some ppl think, they saw prey being released as part of Vega's promotion, and they somehow linked the release of the 2 together, as if they were part of the same project.

 

[Seanspeed]

If Prey is a big hit, it'll still be a boon for AMD if Vega is especially good in it, but being late will definitely minimize any extra publicity or excitement it would generate. Especially if it's more than 3-4 weeks late.

That said, reviews of Vega will likely all use Prey, which is probably the strategic reasoning behind this partnership, giving AMD another surefire AMD-favored game(well....it better be after all this...) in a given game review lineup.

 

[JediFragger]

If Prey is a big hit, it'll still be a boon for AMD if Vega is especially good in it, but being late will definitely minimize any extra publicity or excitement it would generate. Especially if it's more than 3-4 weeks late.

That's how AMD's Marketing Team roll baby

 

[LoadsaMoney]

doesn't make sense for the card to come at the same time as the game, these are 2 different products from different companies with different responsabilities.
you cannot sit on a high tech product waiting for a game, nor can EA delay battlefield untill an AMD gpu releases, your post is utter none sense, or move the product ahead, that's lol...
if vega comes first they will offer pre-order keys, if it comes later it offers actual keys...thats about it.
i do not understand how some ppl think, they saw prey being released as part of Vega's promotion, and they somehow linked the release of the 2 together, as if they were part of the same project.

No its not nonsense, they've been promoting Vega with the game, its got tech in it that only Vega can do, so makes perfect sense, being able to get the card with the game, not about a month later, when the cards finally been released, and everyones already completed the game.

 

[nashathedog]

I'm still rocking a R290 and it's only recently started to show it age. I'm not a hardcore gamer anymore by any stretch but it plays the battlefield series fine, and most recently Battlegrounds (although I'm crap at it). It may be true that AMD have not pushed the boundaries recently with a lot of refreshers but then when a product like the r290 still can hold its own then who really cares? How many poeple can actually afford 1080s and gsync monitors - I know I can't (well I can, but I can't justify the expense). Looking forward to Vega. I've got a freesync ultrawide so will not go back to nVidia unless they support freesync.

This is what Nvidia need to realise, A lot of people will buy Freesync because Freesync models are more numerous and they don't carry the premium G-sync does, Once Nvidia start to see their market share dropping they will change their tune and support Freesync.
While it's annoying that I can't get an upgrade yet I do not regret buying my Freesync monitor and if Nvidia had Freesync support I'm pretty sure I'd of bought a 1070 ages ago..

There was a lot of hype made about the partnership between Bethesda and AMD, as well as how Prey is optimised for Vega. Considering that Prey is coming out in 2 weeks, it seems very unlikely Vega is going to be out in time. A bit of a fail really.

Definitely, They should have had Vega out with it, The fact that they have dropped the Vega-Prey promotions is disappointing. That said it would have been even better if it had released alongside RE7 as based on the results in that Vega could have given Pascal a good old thrashing.

 

[Seanspeed]

No its not nonsense, they've been promoting Vega with the game, its got tech in it that only Vega can do, so makes perfect sense, being able to get the card with the game, about a month later, when its already been finished, will be just LOL.

Well we dont really know exactly what the extent of the technical parternship is. I really doubt it'll have Vega-specific effects or anything, probably just some Vega-specific optimization. Something that'll look good in benchmarks, but isn't gonna be like a Gameworks game where they have a whole trailer about Vega-specific graphics bonuses or anything.

 

[LoadsaMoney]

Well im not excpecting Prey to use anything special from Vega, or much of it tbh, might just be that cache thing.

 

[shankly1985]

Well im not excpecting Prey to use anything special from Vega, or much of it tbh.

It will be optimised for Vega and Ryzen. Won't be anything that can only be run on AMD.

 

[nashathedog]

Well we dont really know exactly what the extent of the technical parternship is. I really doubt it'll have Vega-specific effects or anything, probably just some Vega-specific optimization. Something that'll look good in benchmarks, but isn't gonna be like a Gameworks game where they have a whole trailer about Vega-specific graphics bonuses or anything.

Of course not but he is right, They started some months ago promoting Vega with Prey which made it seem like Vega was going to be the gpu to play Prey on. But they've since stopped those promotions which makes it appear Vega won't be out on time and the masses will of played Prey before Vega lands. Obviously those that wait for games to get cheaper won't of played it but the majority of those looking forward to grabbing it on release will play it on Polaris, Pascal or older gpu's.

It will be optimised for Vega and Ryzen. Won't be anything that can only be run on AMD.

Exactly,
AMD are the pushers of open source tech so it won't be anything Black boxed.

 

[JediFragger]

AMD scream open source all the time so it won't be anything Black boxed.

Exactly! They leave the ****ish behaviour to nVidia whilst AMD act like grown-ups

 

[Seanspeed]

AMD doesn't really invest in the software side of graphics tech in general. At least not nearly to the same degree as Nvidia.

 

[AlamoX]

No its not nonsense, they've been promoting Vega with the game, its got tech in it that only Vega can do, so makes perfect sense, being able to get the card with the game, not about a month later, when the cards finally been released, and everyones already completed the game.

yes it is none sense, it would have been better for AMD if vega released first, but it's better for the studio if the game to release first.
plus i dont see any vega exclusive features that need dev implementation other than rapid packed math( tressfx ), the rest like rasterization and hbcc are driver based.

 

[kylew_is_back]

looks like the new vega will have 2x 8 pin, it must be very powerful

 

[TNA]

I hope Prey lives up to expectations and shines on Vega. It sounds like it has the potential to be better than Deus Ex: MD and Dishonoured 2.

Even if Vega does not come out before Prey, AMD should consider leaking some info on how it runs with it or something.

 

[LoadsaMoney]

it would have been better for AMD if vega released first, but it's better for the studio if the game to release first.
plus i dont see any vega exclusive features that need dev implementation other than rapid packed math( tressfx ), the rest like rasterization and hbcc are driver based.

Well it hasn't got much gaming tech has it, as all Vega' tech, is for compute, rendering, game streaming etc...., as its geared more for all that.

 

[JediFragger]

looks like the new vega will have 2x 8 pin, it must be very powerful

Or GloFlo's process is ****!

 

[D.P.]

It will be optimised for Vega and Ryzen. Won't be anything that can only be run on AMD.

It will also be optimized for Inbtel I7s and Pascal GPUs,hardly very exciting