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I am going nVidia - just trying to persuade myself spending £600+ on a 1080ti is a good idea.
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I am going nVidia - just trying to persuade myself spending £600+ on a 1080ti is a good idea.
Yes but they will want to milk G-Sync for as long as possible. It doesn't offer much, if anything, over FreeSync any more but the more suckers that pony up for it, the more customers they have locked into their ecosystem. Eventually they will implement Adaptive Sync because as you say, lots of people will have FreeSync monitors, but by that point they'll have suckered a lot of people in already and will reap the financial benefits.
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I'm sorry but I don't agree. Having got both Freesync (LG 38UC99) and a PG279 I *much* prefer Gsync. With it being hardware it just works, whereas I've had problems activating Freesync on the Division for a while (fixed now, but AMD weren't doing their job software wise).
I don't fancy being in the above position again, all because AMD were breaking Freesync and not fixing it for months and months.
Just remember, if every time nV put their prices up, people keep buying... then nV have every incentive to make next gen's Ti £700. Then £800. Then $1 billion.
Your monitor did not have lfc which obviously did not help with the experience. Freesync 2 hopefully will guarantee at least g-sync level of quality.
First I have heard of driver issues with freesync though. Anyone else having this issue? That would be very annoying if drivers can mess up freesync. If true and it is a widespread problem, then I can definitely see your point.
I read somewhere that they will be raising prices yet again with Volta. Lol. I can see it already, 2070 their upper mid range card will be £400.
Yup it is a stupid comparison.
1 monitor is aimed for pure gaming and the other is more for professional usage. The LG has considerably higher input lag which alone will make the LG not feel anywhere as nice for gaming, not to mention the LG's higher res. will drop FPS even more so again, not really a great comparison if you want to test only sync abilities....
Compare like for like and there is little to no difference between the 2 sync tech. as has been reported by various expert reviewers now i.e. PCmonitors.info, tftcentral, anandtech etc.
There are a lot of reports about freesync not working lately with certain games and the latest drivers but obviously this is something that AMD have ****** up given that it was working in previous drivers..... The 17.x.x/relive drivers have caused nothing but problems for a vast majority of people (just look at AMD's reddit for the latest driver and this is why I'm still on 16.11.5 as well as many other AMD users) regardless of freesync so again, not a limitation of the freesync hardware but AMD's crap drivers as of late.
1 monitor is aimed for pure gaming and the other is more for professional usage. The LG has considerably higher input lag which alone will make the LG not feel anywhere as nice for gaming, not to mention the LG's higher res. will drop FPS even more so again, not really a great comparison if you want to test only sync abilities....
Compare like for like and there is little to no difference between the 2 sync tech. as has been reported by various expert reviewers now i.e. PCmonitors.info, tftcentral, anandtech etc.
There are a lot of reports about freesync not working lately with certain games and the latest drivers but obviously this is something that AMD have ****** up given that it was working in previous drivers..... The 17.x.x/relive drivers have caused nothing but problems for a vast majority of people (just look at AMD's reddit for the latest driver and this is why I'm still on 16.11.5 as well as many other AMD users) regardless of freesync so again, not a limitation of the freesync hardware but AMD's crap drivers as of late.
Depends on which one you got and from where. I got arguably the best 1070 (Zotac AMP Extreme) for under £400, the cheap ones like the clown edition was closer to £300.wait, wasn't the 1070 around £400 at launch?
I think you meant 500£)
But yeah, you could be right. Lol.
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Why would you add freesync to a non gaming monitor?
It doesn't cost anything, so why not?
If LG really wanted that 38" screen to be a proper gaming screen, they would have used better components to get the input lag considerably reduced:
Not to mention the awful freesync range (52-75Hz) and as a result, no LFC.
Sad to hear about AMD driver issues with freesync. Not having a freesycn monitor I had zero issues with last months drivers when I had my 290 or ever really with that card.
I hope they deal with all this before freesync 2 is released.
Extra selling point. It obviously helped Jedi buying the LG monitor. There are many professional who buy it mainly for work but like to game a bit on the side I would imagine.
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Sad but true, I often see people posting in Youtube threads saying how bad AMD drivers are and when asked for details they start going on about cards they had driver issues with back in 2010/11/12.
Fortunately that's not likely to be a common issue, it's more a one-off game specific problem, I have yet to have any notable Freesync issues but I have only had it for a few months and don't own The Division. The biggest problem I've seen with Freesync is how well a monitor supports it and AMD have started to take control of that by have conditions that must be met before using the upcoming Freesync 2 name. That said I get the feeling we might start seeing a premium being added by the Monitor makers rather than AMD due to the fact that they'll need to use better quality components to meet the new minimum spec.
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It doesn't cost anything, so why not?
If LG really wanted that 38" screen to be a proper gaming screen, they would have used better components to get the input lag considerably reduced:
Not to mention the awful freesync range (52-75Hz) and as a result, no LFC.
Nice graph. Input lags in the 2-5ms region... are they noticeable?
Also leads me on to something I almost asked yesterday, are there any major performance differences between Freesync and Gsync?
LFC is something Freesync2 is going to include....
When are the Freesync 2 monitors gong to show up.... I'm getting impatient now. The Nvidia cards are there and Gsync monitors available. I'm trying my best to wait and see what Vega will bring as well as support AMD but this is a tough wait!
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I think that it opens amd to bad press and reviews by letting anyone add the tech to their monitors. Average Joe might see
the review and think its worse than gsync.
the review and think its worse than gsync.
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I can't see big Vega being any less than 570-580.
Today yes but tomorrow everything could change, It's a fast moving industry and if Vega lands with strong cards Nvidia could be the lesser brand until Volta drops. So no I don't thing anyone should be ruled out as irrelevant.
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This is my main beef with Freesync, that it relies on AMD doing their jobs properly. With Gsync being a hardware solution it just....works.
Yea. They need to have standards for freesync and freesync 2. If not met, then the monitor manufacturers have to put adaptive sync on there instead. Started to see more adaptive sync badges on monitors lately anyway. So maybe this process is under way.
I think this varies from person to person. I am not all that sensitive to it. Unless playing competitively which I do not, I do not think I would need sub 20ms. But obviously the lower the better.
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Tbf I have zero issues with the LG's higher input lag, it's more of a software issue for me.
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