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AMD VEGA confirmed for 2017 H1

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Goodness Dark prediction day is Dark.

Even with GDDR5X the HBM2 should offer over twice the memory bandwidth of the 1080ti. This is a large step forward from the Fury X not the 480.

The top Big Vega will launch with performance at least 5-10% higher than a 1080ti in DX12 and close to par but probably slightly ahead with DX11. AMD know what they need to beat and they will not release a new flagship product that does not deliver that at a minimum.

I predict that the top Vega will spank a 1080ti in DX12 games at 4k that have been designed with AMD in mind - but I also predict that for the top water cooled Vega we are going to see some interesting pricing - especially with the low manufacturing rates we have heard rumored.
 
Goodness Dark prediction day is Dark.

Even with GDDR5X the HBM2 should offer over twice the memory bandwidth of the 1080ti. This is a large step forward from the Fury X not the 480.

The top Big Vega will launch with performance at least 5-10% higher than a 1080ti in DX12 and close to par but probably slightly ahead with DX11. AMD know what they need to beat and they will not release a new flagship product that does not deliver that at a minimum.

I predict that the top Vega will spank a 1080ti in DX12 games at 4k that have been designed with AMD in mind - but I also predict that for the top water cooled Vega we are going to see some interesting pricing - especially with the low manufacturing rates we have heard rumored.

Ok i can imagine that if AMD beats GTX 1080 Ti around 5% to 10% still it will not guarantee the profit ,which AMD wants or promised. AMD is taking losses since 8 year going to toe to toe with Nvidia. Today Nvidia data center revenue alone made more profit than entire AMD Q1 earnings and even with RX series and Ryzen 1 month launch did not come even on par with only Nvidia data revenue.

Everyone knows that VEGA will be more expensive for AMD to make compare to GTX 1080 Ti and AMD knows they cannot sell it cheap. AMD is slowly moving away from high end GPU market and going towards console, APU, mobile, and pro market.



In short, AMD always made losses in high end GPU market and going toe to toe with nvidia and they cannot afford to make another loss.
 
Hay look another sales expert.

If AMD was in so much trouble I very doubt a company would carry on trying to release "expensive to manufacturer memory"

Even adding in new feature that bring up cost like high bandwidth cache, surely for a company in such a bad situation has most of you believe on here would just release a basic cheap to manufacturer GPU lol

To be perfectly honest not one of us on this forum knows how much AMD has to spend on GPU manufacturing
If you think they poor you a complete fool they own the biggest gaming market "console" didn't Sony alone just sold 30 million ps4 if you believe AMD made nothing from that again you a fool.
 
Hay look another sales expert.

If AMD was in so much trouble I very doubt a company would carry on trying to release "expensive to manufacturer memory"

Even adding in new feature that bring up cost like high bandwidth memory, surely for a company in such a bad situation has most of you believe on here would just release a basic cheap to manufacturer GPU lol

To be perfectly honest not one of us on this forum knows how much AMD has to spend on GPU manufacturing
If you think they poor you a complete fool they own the biggest gaming market "console" didn't Sony alone just sold 30 million ps4 if you believe AMD made nothing from that again you a fool.
Yea but we don't care if Vega turns out to be good, even if it beat the 1080ti and is cheaper, who wants to own a card that is not profitable to the company that is selling it? Get with the trend my friend, these days the cool thing to do is throw money and overpay for a graphics card making sure it is profitable for company selling it!

In short, if AMD beat 1080ti and is cheaper, they are doomed. If they beat 1080ti and are more expensive, they are doomed. If they don't beat the 1080ti and are more expensive, they doomed. If they don't beat the 1080ti but they are cheaper, they are doomed! Basically "in short", whatever they do apparently they doomed! :p
 
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Yea but we don't care if Vega turns out to be good, even if it beat the 1080ti and is cheaper, who wants to own a card that is not profitable to the company that is selling it? Get with the trend my friend, these days the cool thing to do is throw money and overpay for a graphics card making sure it is profitable for company selling it!

In short, if AMD beat 1080ti and is cheaper, they are doomed. If they beat 1080ti and are more expensive, they are doomed. If they don't beat the 1080ti and are more expensive, they doomed. If they don't beat the 1080ti but they are cheaper, they are doomed! Basically "in short", whatever they do apparently they doomed! :p

Loool So true though no matter what AMD Release the Nvidia guys on here will label it a fail, AMD are doomed! Am sure I been reading this on here since I joined in 2011 :D

Joking aside for me I couldn't careless if it beats the 1080ti, I just want to upgrade over my 290 and at this moment anything is an upgrade. 10-20 fps slower than a 1080ti and priced much lower is win, win for me.
People see FPS has the big issue here if the Highend Vega is 10 FPS slow or even 20FPS slower everyone on here will label it Doomed LOL
Shouldn't we be comparing performance if the difference is big enough to tell the bloody difference? I mean say the highend Vega was 30+ FPS surely that is a argument worth taking about.
 
Hello, I am here to bring you some important information about Vega. Yes I know many people here have been waiting patiently for some substantial information about Vega from AMD. Well I am happy to say your wait has finally come to an end.

Today I will reveal the full Vega lineup and release date! I will include spoilers so Google does not pick up on important parts.

The RX Vega lineup will come in 3 flavors to cater for different price points. The stated aim is to contend directly against the GTX 10 series.

Spoiler.

RX Vega "Super" - RRP: $499.99 (1080 PERF or better).

RX Vega "Hyper" - RRP: $599.99 (1080TI PERF or better).")

Please note: The RX Vega subnames were still being decided on by the board room at the time so are subject to change but those were the most popular ones amongst the engineers along with "Core" "Eclipse" & "Nova".

And now for the grand finally... DATES!

(/s"The Vega teaser is May 16.

The full Vega reveal is May 30 - June 3.

The official release of Vega is June 5")

P.S Do not ask me for my source. If I told you my friend would lose his job. Let's just say it is rather "Sunny" where he works... ;)

P.S.S Let the downvotes begin. I am expect that I will be flamed for revealing this info despite being from a legit source. If you don't believe me feel free to come back to this post in 3 weeks.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/6aeat3/full_vega_lineup_and_release_date_revealed/

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Either he telling the truth or ???
 
Loool So true though no matter what AMD Release the Nvidia guys on here will label it a fail, AMD are doomed! Am sure I been reading this on here since I joined in 2011 :D

Joking aside for me I couldn't careless if it beats the 1080ti, I just want to upgrade over my 290 and at this moment anything is an upgrade. 10-20 fps slower than a 1080ti and priced much lower is win, win for me.
People see FPS has the big issue here if the Highend Vega is 10 FPS slow or even 20FPS slower everyone on here will label it Doomed LOL
Shouldn't we be comparing performance if the difference is big enough to tell the bloody difference? I mean say the highend Vega was 30+ FPS surely that is a argument worth taking about.
same here i could not care less how it performs against nvidia cards, i just want a fast enough card for my freesync monitor
 
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Either he telling the truth or ???

He didn't have a source. Just some randomer with a text post, saying "trust me".

All I can say is, computex cannot come soon enough.

Some engineering samples for 12 and 16 core AMD CPUs clocked at 3.3ghz have already been spotted. So they're gearing up for something at least.
 
All these names conflict with other brands I think. Core is a intel associated type of name, sure its not exactly the same but I think its too close. Improbable, the whole load of them and nova is forever tainted for me by vauxall novas :p

Wow I'd forgot all about the Nova, I've owned a couple too. Great car for getting it on the cheap and running into the ground :D I never did get an sr though :( Went with a red B reg 1.8 Astra GTE instead :)
 
Interesting post and find over at Reddit. There's some Indications there might be a dual gpu liquid cooled Vega on the way.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/6ahbua/a_dualgpu_liquid_cooled_vega_card_may_be_on_the/

https://cgit.freedesktop.org/~agd5f...n&id=a85adfc8611de39eda02a048fbfcdcc3cc012923

Was taking a look through the recent AMD Raven commits intended for upstream into Linux, and came across the following lines in the powerplay source that seem kinda interesting:

table->Tliquid1Limit = cpu_to_le16(tdp_table->usTemperatureLimitLiquid1);

table->Tliquid2Limit = cpu_to_le16(tdp_table->usTemperatureLimitLiquid2);

At first glance this seems to indicate the presence of a liquid cooling system, as extremely similar lines exist in the Fiji (Fury X) powerplay initialisation code that tie the powerplay control to the I2C temperature sensors/Fan controllers present on the card for maintaining water temperature. These could potentially be a remnant from the Fiji driver code used for bringup of Vega during CES 2017, but the presence and modification of such code this close to release makes this seem unlikely.

I kept digging through the source (vega10_powertune.c and vega10_thermal.c) and found references to the presence of a PLX chip:

table->FanGainPlx = hwmgr->thermal_controller. advanceFanControlParameters.usFanGainPlx;

table->TplxLimit = cpu_to_le16(tdp_table->usTemperatureLimitPlx);

PLX chips on AMD cards are used in order to bridge two GPU's on a single board by multiplexing the PCI-Express slot on the motherboard to both GPU's. The presence of PLX thermal management code strongly indicates that a dual GPU vega board is on the way.
 
He didn't have a source. Just some randomer with a text post, saying "trust me".

All I can say is, computex cannot come soon enough.

Some engineering samples for 12 and 16 core AMD CPUs clocked at 3.3ghz have already been spotted. So they're gearing up for something at least.

And from what he saying though wouldn't have source. We must least give him till the dates have been and gone before dismiss this info.

Hell I think I believe him before half the crap posted in here lol
 
Loool So true though no matter what AMD Release the Nvidia guys on here will label it a fail, AMD are doomed! Am sure I been reading this on here since I joined in 2011 :D

Joking aside for me I couldn't careless if it beats the 1080ti, I just want to upgrade over my 290 and at this moment anything is an upgrade. 10-20 fps slower than a 1080ti and priced much lower is win, win for me.
People see FPS has the big issue here if the Highend Vega is 10 FPS slow or even 20FPS slower everyone on here will label it Doomed LOL
Shouldn't we be comparing performance if the difference is big enough to tell the bloody difference? I mean say the highend Vega was 30+ FPS surely that is a argument worth taking about.

I think you're wrong that people see FPS as the big issue, some posters on here are quite fluid with what constitutes a fail. If there is a difference in FPS, then FPS is the only thing to care about, if there isn't, then performance per watt becomes the only metric worth measuring, and if that is near to equal then it becomes release date. :D I'm very much like you, for me, the only metrics I care about are performance (FPS at high resolutions for personal preference) and price and if a card balances those well by performing very well without breaking the bank, then I'll buy it.
 
Loool So true though no matter what AMD Release the Nvidia guys on here will label it a fail, AMD are doomed! Am sure I been reading this on here since I joined in 2011 :D

Joking aside for me I couldn't careless if it beats the 1080ti, I just want to upgrade over my 290 and at this moment anything is an upgrade. 10-20 fps slower than a 1080ti and priced much lower is win, win for me.
People see FPS has the big issue here if the Highend Vega is 10 FPS slow or even 20FPS slower everyone on here will label it Doomed LOL
Shouldn't we be comparing performance if the difference is big enough to tell the bloody difference? I mean say the highend Vega was 30+ FPS surely that is a argument worth taking about.

I feel there is more to the overall value of a GPU than just frames per second. Frame times and cost is just as important, again to me. If I could make a wish it would be that frame times are perfect with Vega and I would be happy to sit 10-15% lower on the fps counter if it means proper frame times at a reasonable price.
 
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