AMD VEGA confirmed for 2017 H1

[CaptainRAVE]

Loool So true though no matter what AMD Release the Nvidia guys on here will label it a fail, AMD are doomed! Am sure I been reading this on here since I joined in 2011

Joking aside for me I couldn't careless if it beats the 1080ti, I just want to upgrade over my 290 and at this moment anything is an upgrade. 10-20 fps slower than a 1080ti and priced much lower is win, win for me.
People see FPS has the big issue here if the Highend Vega is 10 FPS slow or even 20FPS slower everyone on here will label it Doomed LOL
Shouldn't we be comparing performance if the difference is big enough to tell the bloody difference? I mean say the highend Vega was 30+ FPS surely that is a argument worth taking about.

Unless it smashes the 1080 it will be a fail. AMD are nearly a generation behind. At least they were keeping up with some dual GPU solutions, but not even those seem to have a substance anymore. I honestly wish AMD would come up with something decent so that we all get some lower prices due to competition and so that I can use freesync again.

 

[Griffildur]

Hay look another sales expert.

If AMD was in so much trouble I very doubt a company would carry on trying to release "expensive to manufacturer memory"

Even adding in new feature that bring up cost like high bandwidth cache, surely for a company in such a bad situation has most of you believe on here would just release a basic cheap to manufacturer GPU lol

To be perfectly honest not one of us on this forum knows how much AMD has to spend on GPU manufacturing
If you think they poor you a complete fool they own the biggest gaming market "console" didn't Sony alone just sold 30 million ps4 if you believe AMD made nothing from that again you a fool.

quite agree, a lot of people talk about budgets and money and indeed not one of us here has any clue. It would be nice if people would stop this altogether, only NVidia and AMD know anything about their finances not any Joe Bloggs here on the forum.

 

[Deleted User 234324]

All we do know is that with both the xbox and playstation contracts they are perfectly fine, and when it comes to "predicting" vega, look what they did with Ryzen, if they can repeat that success they are on to a winner.

 

[z10m]

People see FPS has the big issue here if the Highend Vega is 10 FPS slow or even 20FPS slower everyone on here will label it Doomed LOL

People should stop using fps to compare performance because at 4K where 1080ti can't hit 60fps in some games 20fps is like 40% less so yeah that would be a fail.

 

[TNA]

I think you're wrong that people see FPS as the big issue, some posters on here are quite fluid with what constitutes a fail. If there is a difference in FPS, then FPS is the only thing to care about, if there isn't, then performance per watt becomes the only metric worth measuring, and if that is near to equal then it becomes release date. I'm very much like you, for me, the only metrics I care about are performance (FPS at high resolutions for personal preference) and price and if a card balances those well by performing very well without breaking the bank, then I'll buy it.

lol

 

[jaffveyda]

For most of the users most important thing is performance per £, and what suits their needs. Not everyone is aiming for ultra settings.But if competitor will offer better experience during gaming i would not sacrifice this for sentiment towards company.

 

[beany_bot]

Unless it smashes the 1080 it will be a fail.

Completely disagree. Sure we WANT it to smash the 1080. But it doesn't need to to be a commercial success. Just look at the RX480.

 

[eddyr]

Interesting post and find over at Reddit. There's some Indications there might be a dual gpu liquid cooled Vega on the way.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/6ahbua/a_dualgpu_liquid_cooled_vega_card_may_be_on_the/

https://cgit.freedesktop.org/~agd5f...n&id=a85adfc8611de39eda02a048fbfcdcc3cc012923

PLX chip could also be for an onboard ssd for workstation cards as shown in the Radeon Pro SSG last year.

 

[Mtom]

Unless it smashes the 1080 it will be a fail. AMD are nearly a generation behind. At least they were keeping up with some dual GPU solutions, but not even those seem to have a substance anymore. I honestly wish AMD would come up with something decent so that we all get some lower prices due to competition and so that I can use freesync again.

In this light next year will be interesting. Nvidia will launch Volta on 12nm - which is just a fancy world for 16nm, and later in the year AMD will come with the 7nm cards. How will they cope? then 2019 Navi, and i assume a Volta refresh. seems like a leapfrog game is shaping.

 

[N19h7m4r3]

PLX chip could also be for an onboard ssd for workstation cards as shown in the Radeon Pro SSG last year.

It certainly could be, but the main giveaway is also the Liquid temperature limit for two processors, and then the PLX added on as well.

Since there was recently more Vega device IDs added to the Linux driver, and now this is found; there is a chance of a Vega dual GPU liquid cooled card at least.

Although for all we know, it might be another Radeon Pro Duo affair.

 

[JediFragger]

Although for all we know, it might be another Radeon Pro Duo affair.

Let's hope so. Crossfire seems only to be good for BF4 nowadays and not much else!! SLi not much better

 

[N19h7m4r3]

Let's hope so. Crossfire seems only to be good for BF4 nowadays and not much else!! SLi not much better

Don't forget Rise of the Tomb Raider! DX12 Multi GPU has a a pair of RX 480's beating a Titan X ( Pascal ) in there.

I wish more developers would bother with it on their DX12 games, the scaling is amazing there when done right; and doesn't rely on Xfire profiles.

Or who knows, maybe AMD is back to competing with a Dual GPU, and they finally sorted out their driver for Vega to be as good as it was during the 4870X2 - 295X period.

 

[JediFragger]

I wish more developers would bother with it on their DX12 games, the scaling is amazing there when done right; and doesn't rely on Xfire profiles.

Agreed! Let's hope this stuff gets more love moving forward with DX12/Vulkan

 

[Phixsator]

Don't forget Rise of the Tomb Raider! DX12 Multi GPU has a a pair of RX 480's beating a Titan X ( Pascal ) in there.

I wish more developers would bother with it on their DX12 games, the scaling is amazing there when done right; and doesn't rely on Xfire profiles.

Or who knows, maybe AMD is back to competing with a Dual GPU, and they finally sorted out their driver for Vega to be as good as it was during the 4870X2 - 295X period.

Would love to see crossfire shine some more. It would be a big middle finger to nvidias decision to remove sli on their midrange cards and charging insane amount for their high end. The whole argument that one should just save up more money and buy a higher tier GPU is absolutely garbage as not everyone is able to. With proper mGPU support from both vendors(and game devs) those of us on lesser budgets could buy a mid tier GPU and a year or buy one more and get a good experience without having to lower every graphics setting. Now make it happen

 

[beany_bot]

I would never ever put money into Xfire/sli. I know many do. But I just couldn't face putting that huge outlay down to only have it completely useless in loads of my favourite games. That would just be crushing. A bit like if you bought a new car and they said "its a nice car but might only work for 50% of your journeys". Madness in my eye unless of course money is no object.

 

[N19h7m4r3]

Agreed! Let's hope this stuff gets more love moving forward with DX12/Vulkan

Would love to see crossfire shine some more. It would be a big middle finger to nvidias decision to remove sli on their midrange cards and charging insane amount for their high end. The whole argument that one should just save up more money and buy a higher tier GPU is absolutely garbage as not everyone is able to. With proper mGPU support from both vendors(and game devs) those of us on lesser budgets could buy a mid tier GPU and a year or buy one more and get a good experience without having to lower every graphics setting. Now make it happen

Raja mentioned in 2016 that AMD's end goal was having Multi GPU, as common and ubiquitous as as Multi-Core CPUs.

Navi is apparently the step into scalability for it; but hopefully we won't have too wait too long. The main issue is still having to rely on PLX chips, and not being able to share VRAM and resources like a CPU would.

Their goal is to use their Infinity Fabric which is in Zen, to also be used in APUs, and GPUs; but who knows when that'll even happen.

 

[Curlyriff]

That pricing is abysmal. If that's true it's either a high end RX580 or a Fury/Nano again for me.

£400 for 1070 performance? Sod well off.

But it is £300 here and we did actually get exchange rate prices with Ryzen.

That undercuts the cheapest 1070 by £40 on OcUK. Doesn't seem that far off. Not sure why people expect it to be £100 less. People in dream land.

 

[beany_bot]

I don't see AMD as exhibitors at computex? Surely if they were announcing VEGA at Computex they would want to be exhibiting? Seems odd. http://www.computextaipei.com.tw/en...e=desc&comENamePrefix=A&comCountry=&showArea=

Nvidia have a booth (tiny 10x10 but still a presence) and unlikely they are announcing anything. http://booth.e-taitra.com.tw/tts/boothviewer.aspx?showno=2017cp&pillar=1&language=en-us Just seems odd. I can't imagine AMD making a bit announcement there without being exhibitors.

 

[Journey]

But it is £300 here and we did actually get exchange rate prices with Ryzen.

That undercuts the cheapest 1070 by £40 on OcUK. Doesn't seem that far off. Not sure why people expect it to be £100 less. People in dream land.

I think the fact people think AMD is a value brand means they a lot of people wouldn't consider buying them, unless it is a.) A lot cheaper, or b.) Significantly faster for the same cost.

There have been lots of 1070's around £299 recently, and 1080's from £399-419, then's there's the 1080 Ti which is not holding it's high prices, already less than £620. Some people would think that they are trying to get stock moving before there is any competition

 

[Matkinson]

But it is £300 here and we did actually get exchange rate prices with Ryzen.

That undercuts the cheapest 1070 by £40 on OcUK. Doesn't seem that far off. Not sure why people expect it to be £100 less. People in dream land.

I can buy a 1070 for £300 today if I look around.

It needs to be cheaper than this, it's a year late and gives no real incentive if it isn't cheaper. (or at least beat it in performance by 10% or so.)

Unfortunately I can't see that happening, personally I wouldn't even bother with a 1070 competitor and go straight for 1080, 1080ti performance and above.