AMD VEGA confirmed for 2017 H1

[opethdisciple]

Vulkan doesn't even work with mgpu does it?

 

[Steampunk]

Another vote for "not interested in Crossfire until it works seamlessly in all titles".

 

[N19h7m4r3]

Vulkan doesn't even work with mgpu does it?

It does, was in the last major update to the API.

 

[old gamer]

Until it's improved, I shall henceforth refer to Crossfire as Crapfire

Or when it first come out it had the nickname missfire

 

[old gamer]

Single card 100% all the way. Unfortunately, I upgraded to 390 crossfire when crossfire gaming was probably the best it's been (around 2 years or so ago when i had my 7950 crossfire) . Since then it's got worse and worse to where we are today and have been for about a year. Multi gpu for gaming right now is a huge no no.

I've had plenty of crossfire setups in the past, my pair of 7970's were great, if amd could sort out multi gpu I would like to try it again some day

 

[AlamoX]

i wonder if AMD still need to mirror the memory on vega or not, because not having to double down on memory and pcb components, could save almost a 100$ on a dual card, that could very well be what it needs for a jump start, like dual 480 for 300$, who wouldn't pick that up, even with known issues ?

 

[TNA]

i wonder if AMD still need to mirror the memory on vega or not, because not having to double down on memory and pcb components, could save almost a 100$ on a dual card, that could very well be what it needs for a jump start, like dual 480 for 300$, who wouldn't pick that up, even with known issues ?

Me. Single GPU all the way. It is too annoying knowing you have power under the hood but cannot use it due to drivers or developers. Until it gets to a point where 90% of games work just as good as a single gpu, I will never buy multi gpu.

 

[D.P.]

i wonder if AMD still need to mirror the memory on vega or not, because not having to double down on memory and pcb components, could save almost a 100$ on a dual card, that could very well be what it needs for a jump start, like dual 480 for 300$, who wouldn't pick that up, even with known issues ?

They will still need to double down on the menory, there is just no practical way of avoiding that. And if you didn't double down on the menory each GPU would get half the bandwidth slowing g the whole thing down to a crawl

 

[JediFragger]

I just can't stand the additional latency of mGPU setups now, whereas before it never used to bother me. Weird.

Single powerful card + nice Gsync/Freesync monitor all the way imo, provides a much richer all-round experience

 

[nashathedog]

Ummm the guy or the shirt....

Ewww! Get your mind out of the gutter, I don't swing that way except on a Sunday.

 

[AlamoX]

They will still need to double down on the menory, there is just no practical way of avoiding that. And if you didn't double down on the menory each GPU would get half the bandwidth slowing g the whole thing down to a crawl

well im wondering because now AMD have the infinity fabric up and running, with over 3 times the pci-e 3.0 bandwidth, also have the HBCC with the virtual memory adresses, i mean im no engineer, but i see potential solution there.

 

[nashathedog]

Yep. Make one. Charge 1k or more for it. Claim it as fastest graphics card and have the most premium card available all in one.

For the rest of us release watercooled big Vega for £500 which performs close to 1080ti

Sounds good.

Single card 100% all the way. Unfortunately, I upgraded to 390 crossfire when crossfire gaming was probably the best it's been (around 2 years or so ago when i had my 7950 crossfire) . Since then it's got worse and worse to where we are today and have been for about a year. Multi gpu for gaming right now is a huge no no.

Definitely and the good thing is we are slowly getting Graphics cards that are fast enough to do without it.

Until it's improved, I shall henceforth refer to Crossfire as Crapfire

It's certainly become a Crapshoot so it sounds about right.

 

[shankly1985]

Am really excited to see what HBCC brings.
At its Capsaicin & Cream event today, AMD announced that its High Bandwidth Cache Controller (HBCC), a feature introduced by its "Vega" GPU architecture to improve memory management, will increase game performance tangibly. The company did a side-by-side comparison between two sessions of "Deus Ex: Mankind Divided," in which a HBCC-aware machine purportedly presented 2x better minimum FPS, and 1.5x better average FPS scores, than a non-HBCC-aware system (though the old, trusty frame-rate counter was conspicuously absent from both demos).

AMD also went on to show how HBCC seemingly halves memory requirements, by deliberately capping the amount of addressable memory on the HBCC-aware system to only 2 GB - half of the 4 GB addressable by the non-HBCC-aware system, while claiming that even so, the HBCC-enabled system still showed "the same or better performance" through its better memory management and bandwidth speeds. If these results do hold up to scrutiny, this should benefit implementations of "Vega" with lower amounts of video memory, while simultaneously reducing production costs and overall end-user pricing, since smaller memory pools would be needed for the same effect.

https://www.techpowerup.com/231093/...e-controller-improves-minimum-and-average-fps

 

[opethdisciple]

Am really excited to see what HBCC brings.
At its Capsaicin & Cream event today, AMD announced that its High Bandwidth Cache Controller (HBCC), a feature introduced by its "Vega" GPU architecture to improve memory management, will increase game performance tangibly. The company did a side-by-side comparison between two sessions of "Deus Ex: Mankind Divided," in which a HBCC-aware machine purportedly presented 2x better minimum FPS, and 1.5x better average FPS scores, than a non-HBCC-aware system (though the old, trusty frame-rate counter was conspicuously absent from both demos).

AMD also went on to show how HBCC seemingly halves memory requirements, by deliberately capping the amount of addressable memory on the HBCC-aware system to only 2 GB - half of the 4 GB addressable by the non-HBCC-aware system, while claiming that even so, the HBCC-enabled system still showed "the same or better performance" through its better memory management and bandwidth speeds. If these results do hold up to scrutiny, this should benefit implementations of "Vega" with lower amounts of video memory, while simultaneously reducing production costs and overall end-user pricing, since smaller memory pools would be needed for the same effect.

https://www.techpowerup.com/231093/...e-controller-improves-minimum-and-average-fps

To me these technologies sound like they are aiming at the 4k market.

 

[nashathedog]

Are you going to go single card or crossfire with Vega ?

Crossfire of course, what else?

Single card 100% all the way. Unfortunately, I upgraded to 390 crossfire when crossfire gaming was probably the best it's been (around 2 years or so ago when i had my 7950 crossfire) . Since then it's got worse and worse to where we are today and have been for about a year. Multi gpu for gaming right now is a huge no no.

I know this video shows SLI but it is generally considered to be the better of the two so if these don't put someone of off mgpu nothing will.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwJfW-fIJUc

 

[shankly1985]

To me these technologies sound like they are aiming at the 4k market.

Why? Memory is memory be it 4K or 1440p a game can still over use on the Vram. I expect the min frame rate to gain no matter then resolution.

 

[TNA]

8gb should be enough for a good couple of years anyway imo. Until PS5 and an even newer Xbox comes out. By the time 8gb is not enough we will be on a new gpu.

 

[JediFragger]

I expect the min frame rate to gain no matter then resolution.

And THAT my friends is the secret sauce....

 

[shankly1985]

And THAT my friends is the secret sauce....

We will see

 

[TNA]

And THAT my friends is the secret sauce....

Secret sauce eh? Lol