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AMD VEGA confirmed for 2017 H1
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Indeed. Although I believe they said the gaming cards will have 2xFP16 enabled.
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Sure it makes sense they dont expect or want even a gaming audience on a business presentation. Just jumping the gun here
Heres a consumer type email I got, rx560 is released today. I said those refreshed cards being out in April kinda showed vega was not close like May 5th as it would overshadow but does that also apply to this Frontier edition vs consumer versions.
We are separate markets so it wont conflict, do they have the capacity
This current presentator could read bedtime stories tbh
He is trying to be calm but its not the way to give speech details and keep attention afaik
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Heres a consumer type email I got, rx560 is released today. I said those refreshed cards being out in April kinda showed vega was not close like May 5th as it would overshadow but does that also apply to this Frontier edition vs consumer versions.
We are separate markets so it wont conflict, do they have the capacity
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/6bklro/we_are_radeon_technologies_group_at_amd_and_were/
This current presentator could read bedtime stories tbh
He is trying to be calm but its not the way to give speech details and keep attention afaik
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http://pro.radeon.com/en-us/vega-frontier-edition/
Radeon Instinct, Radeon Pro, and Radeon RX flavors of Vega.
Radeon Instinct, Radeon Pro, and Radeon RX flavors of Vega.
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Today we’re announcing the first of several Vega architecture-based products to roll out this summer, and soon we’ll be launching Radeon Instinct, Radeon Pro, and Radeon RX flavors of Vega. But today’s Vega is just a little different. Let me tell you why.
So much for AMD being Doomed lol
So much for AMD being Doomed lol
That would be rather needless, unless they have something up their sleeve for it.
What's also interesting is how Vega Frontier matches up against NVIDIA's new Telsa V100.
~20% faster while not available until near end of the year, costing significantly more; and being dramatically larger.
~510mm2 vs 815mm2
It's also PCIe vs NVLINK; the V100 PCIe card will be slower than the NVLINK one, just like the P100 NVL was faster than the PCIe.
Never mind the V100 has a yield of 1 per 12" wafer; that cost will be massive, and supply low. Which is why NVIDIA were taking pre-orders already. It's essentially built to order.
Outside of NVIDIA's new Tensor Processors for mixed precision workloads, Vega actually looks really decent in comparison, especially given the size and R&D budget.
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Epyc is fast....
I loved that die shot!
Shame they didn't show a new Vega one along with the Frontier card.
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I can certainly live with top Vega being 10-15% faster than the 1080, as long as the HBCC tech improves the minimums overall for a nicer gaming experience 
i don't think AMD r Nvidia would be able to compete with Google's TPU for targeted workload, don't think google would leave much of the Tensor market for 2 other players.
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He was talking specifically about gaming when he showed the Sniper Elite demo - based on the short clip it would appear that the performance is in the same ball park as the 1080Ti. Just a small clip of one game but encouraging none the less...
Exactly, which means Vega is looking extremely well compared to the behemoth V100.
Over 300mm2 larger, and only 20% faster 25 TFLOPS vs 30 TFLOPS FP16; never mind the cost difference.
And, thanks to GloFlo, consuming 50% more power than a 1080Ti
Thanks to GloFo our overclocked Ryzen 8/16t burns less power than the overclocked Intel i7 4/8t. Even when compared to the more power efficient 7700K, let alone the power hungry 6700K or 4790K for more MT perf.
While the 6900K burns twice the amount of power at 4Ghz for less perf also!!!!
I can see your statement, out of the window been dragged by the foxes right now....
I am really looking forward to seeing how the consumer Volta chips stack up against Vega. Nvidia has added a proper hardware scheduler like GCN has, meaning there's a LOT more register files and interconnects plus scheduling logic on the chip now. Last time they tried this we got... Fermi. Luckily for Nvidia, the 12nm process will mask a lot of that, but we should still be able to get some sense of what it translates to.
Besides, we'll soon be comparing 7nm chips on a level playing field (as early as 2H 2018 / 1H 2019)...
Yep, there's hope in there! I think this proves that the HBCC can do its work without the game developers having to change their code.
On another note: someone posts a video comparing two Vega cards and the title is 'Rekking Novideo GTX 1080ti'... Kids nowadays...
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HBCC best GPU feature in the last decade!! Very well possible. The test so far have seen a massive improvement. I agree with @JediFragger I would loose the 5%-10% slower if min FPS was higher all the time.
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Same here! If it's 10% slower in averages, but has improved minimums over 1080Ti, I'll be very happy.
I look forward to reviews, especially in video work as well; AMD is already good there; and seeing the compute on Vega I hope to get a smashing card.
Meanwhile, in GPU land...
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