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Agreed. The ultimate monitor would be ultra wide 4K and 144Hz but we're still a few years away that I guess. Don't think I'd ever go back to 16:9 given a choice though.
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Agree, but Ultra-Wide 4K 144hz panels are not going to be cheap.
I'm not disputing that about 60HZ screens, in fact, I didn't even mention them...
I am just talking about people who rave on about 100+HZ screens being amazing but then they aren't actually getting the full benefit when they are running at 50-70FPS on "average" or sometimes even lower than that.
Like I said, the main reason people jump to the 100+HZ is for the improved motion clarity but this is largely reliant on them getting the FPS too.
Yes you are right though, if you are someone who doesn't have any form of adaptive sync or refuses to use in game vsync then "just" 144HZ will be an improvement somewhat for input lag or/and less noticeable screen tearing.
Personally I still have no problem with input lag with regards to in game vsync as there are a lot of ways to get very little input lag associated with vsync by using FPS limiters (some programs produce better results than others), trying out borderless windowed mode, triple buffering and various combinations. This is where adaptive sync is great as you don't have to faff about with various settings to get a screen tear free experience AND low input lag.
Although not exclusively so and not so much the case these days as it was a few years ago - panels that supported high refresh also tended to have a bit more gaming focus in the design so typically would have lower latency and better motion clarity, even at lower framerates, than the average monitor. My Samsung 2233RZ back in the day beat the **** out of most other panels for low input lag and motion clarity even at 60 fps never mind 120 heh - I'm not sure the technical reason behind it but even with v-sync off you could notice a difference between running it at 60Hz and 120Hz even with framerates in the 50-70 range.
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They are amazing full stop. Even at a lower fps mate. Mind you that's prob down to freesync more.
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100hz and above is FPS territory, it is a tenth of a second but this still matters in competitive multiplayer imo. I know people talk on other quality factors and that might be best suited for them but I wouldnt want a new monitor any slower then 100. Theres all sorts of anti blur standards though that might be more relevant in some games.
I'm not buying anything again till I get stubbornly shifted off a dx10 graphics card
plus my desk isnt big enough anyway. My slush fund was stored in bitcoins (to avoid weak sterling) so they'd better hurry tbhSince we have assembled the knowledged minds of the great and good on monitor magnificence, can I get a yay or nay on 250hz monitors. Is that a gimmick and/or really not important
The Sign up for AMD stream. I presume thats our last best hope for gaming greatness this side of H1. Now apparently a distant dream in a galaxy far far away aka Vega no wonder it took so long to arrive
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Yup, overclockable. I'll wait for the reputable sites to review first, make sure their's no chance of any frame skipping
Will spoiler this since it isn't related to vega but monitors, again.... 
Yup older higher refresh rate monitors used to be better for "gaming" in terms of motion etc. I think the main reason they aren't as good these days is cause sacrifices had to be made in order to improve the image quality/colours etc. more so for the TN panels. Even my old samsung 4.3 60HZ monitor [can't remember the model number] is still very impressive for motion clarity.
Excluding possibly CRT displays.... without a doubt, the best display tech. I've seen of late for motion clarity has to be the 2016+ OLED TVs.
Yup that will be freesync Sync tech. shouldn't have any direct impact on motion clarity, in fact, some have found that with sync tech. removing the screen tearing and stutter especially at the lower FPS range, the motion blur becomes more apparent then. Iirc, nvidia claimed that their gsync module would improve motion or/and certain transitions but I haven't seen any tests to confirm this.
As above though, the high refresh rate displays are still very good if a monitor doesn't have any sync tech. and you are someone who doesn't like using in game vsync.
I wish more games used whatever the division's vsync method of "auto" is as it is extremely impressive even when FPS are fluctuating all over the place, iirc, digital foundry said that they were also very impressed with it and it almost felt like using free/g sync.
Hopefully AMD's upcoming turbo vsync or whatever will be impressive, they have been lacking behind nvidia for a long time now with regards to their fast sync and adaptive vsync!
IMO, not worth it at all unless you are someone who takes the likes of cs:go very seriously and plays at a professional level.
But as per usual, it comes down to the individual these things.
Yup older higher refresh rate monitors used to be better for "gaming" in terms of motion etc. I think the main reason they aren't as good these days is cause sacrifices had to be made in order to improve the image quality/colours etc. more so for the TN panels. Even my old samsung 4.3 60HZ monitor [can't remember the model number] is still very impressive for motion clarity.
Excluding possibly CRT displays.... without a doubt, the best display tech. I've seen of late for motion clarity has to be the 2016+ OLED TVs.
Yup that will be freesync
Sync tech. shouldn't have any direct impact on motion clarity, in fact, some have found that with sync tech. removing the screen tearing and stutter especially at the lower FPS range, the motion blur becomes more apparent then. Iirc, nvidia claimed that their gsync module would improve motion or/and certain transitions but I haven't seen any tests to confirm this.As above though, the high refresh rate displays are still very good if a monitor doesn't have any sync tech. and you are someone who doesn't like using in game vsync.
I wish more games used whatever the division's vsync method of "auto" is as it is extremely impressive even when FPS are fluctuating all over the place, iirc, digital foundry said that they were also very impressed with it and it almost felt like using free/g sync.
Hopefully AMD's upcoming turbo vsync or whatever will be impressive, they have been lacking behind nvidia for a long time now with regards to their fast sync and adaptive vsync!
IMO, not worth it at all unless you are someone who takes the likes of cs:go very seriously and plays at a professional level.
But as per usual, it comes down to the individual these things.
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They won't be cheap at first, but, for me a 144hz uw4k HDR Freesync2 monitor is the next step up from my current monitor and I've only had this for 4 or 5 months so I won't be rushing to buy one anyway. That said they're probably still 2 or 3 years away as mentioned so I probably will be ready to upgrade by the time they hit the market.
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Yup, overclockable. I'll wait for the reputable sites to review first, make sure their's no chance of any frame skipping
I'll have a look at the reviews once they surface. I'd like to wait for a new Asus one if they reveal one anytime soon. Such as computex etc.
120hz would be spot on for the next few years though so I might be interested if it has some decent reviews.
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My son is almost 5. Won't be long before he starts becoming interested in the stuff I'm playing then I'll have a mini me co-op partner haha.
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Yeah it's good fun playing with the kids although there's a disappointing number of local co-op games for PC. Apart from the Lego games they're quite sparse. Although the 3 of us all have good fun playing Broforce together.
I have Started playing mario kart 8 using cemu with my 2 year old he loves it but isnt very good at turning yet so we play 2 player so i can push him in the right direction i wonder how long it will be before he starts beating me at it
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Yup, that'd be the sweet spot tbh and you wouldn't miss anything (if much) with a 144Hz panel.
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that would be the wrong thread
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true i couldn't tell 120-144 even 120-165 other than a slight increase in response time. Hardly any discernible difference in smoothness.
100-120hz I can tell. Although its pretty minor having the extra 20hz would make it just the perfect monitor.
Will have to hope for a 120hz IPS 3440x1440 come Volta's release
Will have to hope for a 120hz IPS 3440x1440 come Volta's release
Volta Titan and 5Ghz CoffeeLake might finally keep 60FPS in WoW during the Nighthold raid at 1440p
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