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AMD VEGA confirmed for 2017 H1

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Seanspeed said:
I've found this place is more a place for well-off consumers rather than real tech enthusiasts.
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justbeingmiko said:
As a well off consumer, I resent that ;)

Joking aside, I dont know about others, but the GPU market is causing me such frustration. All first world problems of course. Invested in a 295x2 a year and a bit ago and expected it to last for a good few years. Crossfire has gone from being wonderful to adhoc at best.

To find a replacement for the 295x2 is proving to be a difficult decision. Single card needed, performance in excess of the 295 hoped for and yet we still wait.

The split of the Gsync and Freesync is like the bluray vs hd-dvd of a few years ago. Daren't commit to one just in case. I can see myself going Nvidia and gsync only to find that AMD release a killer card where I can use a freesync monitor for less money.

Oh well, until the GPU and monitor market finds its feet I can go on faux resenting being labeled as a non-tech digester of mis-information from the interwebs :)
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I would suggest you wait until Vega and make a choice then. Just look at the up side, the 295x2 will be handy in this cold :p

If you cannot wait, get a 1070 or if you have the money to splash get a Titan XP. The titan will definitely be faster than a 295x2 in every way. I had a 295x2 and ended up with a 1070, but I got it at the start of its life cycle, at this point you might as well wait to see what Vega brings along :)
 
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I would suggest you wait until Vega and make a choice then. Just look at the up side, the 295x2 will be handy in this cold :p

If you cannot wait, get a 1070 or if you have the money to splash get a Titan XP. The titan will definitely be faster than a 295x2 in every way. I had a 295x2 and ended up with a 1070, but I got it at the start of its life cycle, at this point you might as well wait to see what Vega brings along :)
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thanks :) Waiting does seem the best option for now.

You are not kidding on the heat...dont even need the radiator on in the study with that thing running!! Great card though....if only CF had been constant !
 
Really looking forward to what AMD do with the VEGA personally, having had a Vive since launch and being hooked on VR games I'd literally give my left nut for better performance and improved visuals through super sampling, but my Fury X just can't cope.
 
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AMD GPUs that are designated as Polaris 10 XT2 and Polaris 12 have been found in Apple's MacOS drivers, alongside AMD's upcoming Vega10 GPU, suggesting that Apple has plans to use AMD's future GPUs in their products and that AMD may not be finished with their Polaris architecture.

https://www.overclock3d.net/news/gp..._xt2_and_polaris_12_appear_in_macos_drivers/1

***didnt read thread but same as whats posted above :) ****

If Polaris 12 is the RX490 and matching the Ashe's benches not long ago... how powerful will Vega 10 actually be, or is that actually Vega ?!?!?!?!!

Cant help but feel Polaris XT is a boosted version of the 480 or refresh of the chip- cut down power etc/ Pascal to Maxwell
 
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Obviously plans can change, but this was something AMD showed earlier this year:

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So any 'XT2' Polaris would probably be rebranded as 465, 475 and 485 series.

Whereas the '>256 bit/4k' part for the 490 would still indicate to me it's likely to be a new GPU, and not just two 480's plastered together. So I'd say that will be baby Vega and AMD will stick with the 400 series naming through 2017, along with a flagship 'named' card(big Vega).
 
Seanspeed said:
So any 'XT2' Polaris would probably be rebranded as 465, 475 and 485 series.

Whereas the '>256 bit/4k' part for the 490 would still indicate to me it's likely to be a new GPU, and not just two 480's plastered together. So I'd say that will be baby Vega and AMD will stick with the 400 series naming through 2017, along with a flagship 'named' card(big Vega).
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Yea, looks like that. Hope they do not wait until June to release Vega though. By then Volta won't be far away.
 
Seanspeed said:
Obviously plans can change, but this was something AMD showed earlier this year:

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So any 'XT2' Polaris would probably be rebranded as 465, 475 and 485 series.

Whereas the '>256 bit/4k' part for the 490 would still indicate to me it's likely to be a new GPU, and not just two 480's plastered together. So I'd say that will be baby Vega and AMD will stick with the 400 series naming through 2017, along with a flagship 'named' card(big Vega).
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I forgot about this slide!

I was trying to tell people 490 wont be Polaris everywhere. Even people on youtube believe this in videos and comments. Normally iterations follow the /5
only difference this gen is they have not gone with the 390/x way of naming things with a cut down version.

Polaris has seen its full chip and can only leave Vega but this doesn't mean this one can't have GDDR5 memory. It also makes absolutely no sense for AMD to release two 480 GPUs on one board unless they try to push it for VR but even then its pointless because why get a dual 480 when the bigger Vega will be just as good? Or atleast should be.

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Unless there is another version of Polaris? Polaris 12?
 
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r7slayer said:
I was trying to tell people 490 wont be Polaris everywhere. Even people on youtube believe this in videos and comments. Normally iterations follow the /5
only difference this gen is they have not gone with the 390/x way of naming things with a cut down version.
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I think it confuses people because AMD's naming conventions are confusing and the way they release their products isn't like Nvidia. Doesn't help that they've changed things up with Polaris, yet still aren't doing it like Nvidia, and it still isn't 100% clear how they're handling it.

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Unless there is another version of Polaris? Polaris 12?
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I mean, if AMD are going to release a high end 384-bit+ Polaris card that will be marketed as a 4k-capable card, that would make Vega a complete replacement for Polaris, which isn't at all what we've heard so far, all indications being that Vega will be higher end.
 
Seanspeed said:
I think it confuses people because AMD's naming conventions are confusing and the way they release their products isn't like Nvidia. Doesn't help that they've changed things up with Polaris, yet still aren't doing it like Nvidia, and it still isn't 100% clear how they're handling it.
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Yea AMD haven't been consistent with their naming scheme at times lol.

I mean, if AMD are going to release a high end 384-bit+ Polaris card that will be marketed as a 4k-capable card, that would make Vega a complete replacement for Polaris, which isn't at all what we've heard so far, all indications being that Vega will be higher end.
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Yea that's what i initially thought, Polaris was supposed to be aimed at mid range while Vega is supposed to be higher end. But im not sure if they will try to replace Polaris with Vega. To me it would make more sense the 490 being a Vega GPU.
 
r7slayer said:
Yea that's what i initially thought, Polaris was supposed to be aimed at mid range while Vega is supposed to be higher end. But im not sure if they will try to replace Polaris with Vega. To me it would make more sense the 490 being a Vega GPU.
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If the 490 is indeed Polaris based then maybe Vega is a little further away than we think. Hopefully not.
 
TNA said:
Yea, looks like that. Hope they do not wait until June to release Vega though. By then Volta won't be far away.
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Seanspeed said:
Exactly. That would be a bummer.
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This is where hope trumps reality.

Why state 1H 2017 if there's a *good* chance of it being Q1 2017?

They've purposely given themselves up to June to release, and this late in the day, they ought to know within a few weeks when the thing will be ready.

Don't hold your breath... it'll be May or June for Vega.
 
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Why state 1H 2017 if there's a *good* chance of it being Q1 2017?
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I'll take any chance at all, at this point. AMD cant afford to push it back so late. Nvidia are not resting on their laurels, and their confidence in pushing out the Titan X so early when they already had the high end sewn up with the 1070/1080 suggests Volta is probably not super far off. Especially when you remember that Pascal was only a late stop-gap architecture in the first place.
 
Seanspeed said:
I'll take any chance at all, at this point. AMD cant afford to push it back so late. Nvidia are not resting on their laurels, and their confidence in pushing out the Titan X so early when they already had the high end sewn up with the 1070/1080 suggests Volta is probably not super far off. Especially when you remember that Pascal was only a late stop-gap architecture in the first place.
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Or it could mean that their mole in AMD has spilled the beans and that's why they have the titan card played already.

Volta was slated for 2018, there is little they can do to bring it forward. Silicon isn't a 3d printer.
 
AMD could have said 1H to try and make it hard for nVidia to counter then this time around in the high end? And actually release stuff earlier than people expected? Just an assumption.
 
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