AMD Vs. Nvidia Image Quality - Old man yells at cloud

Gregster · 26 Nov 2019 at 18:15

Reflections are terrible on AMD there. That really does look poor on the AMD side. Am I missing something?

TheRealDeal · 26 Nov 2019 at 18:35

Gregster said:
Reflections are terrible on AMD there. That really does look poor on the AMD side. Am I missing something?

Yea from one of the comments "MSAA reflections are an Nvidia feature, much like Nvidia HBAO. Turn that off for AMD, and reflections will look like they're supposed to."

stooeh · 26 Nov 2019 at 18:36

Rroff said:
I take it you didn't read the comments in the video?

On the AMD side the reflections are turned off - the reason the pool looks different is because on the AMD side it just has a generic water texture while on the nVidia side it is reflecting the scene but at that distance you don't see much reflection detail. Play the bit from 0:56 seconds in slow motion and watch the reflection map disappear as the AMD side moves across the cars on the left.

Notice on the tower block behind for instance the nVidia side the windows on the right hand side of the building are reflecting the sky on the AMD side they aren't.

Yet again the problem is people comparing with non-equivalent settings.

Lol

bru · 26 Nov 2019 at 19:03

OMG AMD is cheating, they completely ignore the reflections and shadowing in this screenshot, I mean just look at how bland the car looks on the AMD side of the image.

And I think we can all now agree that AMD's image quality is sub par and well below that of NVidia.

bru · 26 Nov 2019 at 19:09

Ok that is what I get for being interrupted before posting, you already know about the reflections being different.

And yes it was a post in jest anyway.

4K8KW10 · 26 Nov 2019 at 19:33

TheRealDeal said:
Yea from one of the comments "MSAA reflections are an Nvidia feature, much like Nvidia HBAO. Turn that off for AMD, and reflections will look like they're supposed to."

Yup, GTA V looks like a TWIMTBP title, featuring nvidia's things, and those reflections should be some type of pre-ray-tracing image optimisations.

Anyways, still, the AMD card provides better image quality in the areas which are supported by it.
We all know that AMD doesn't support nvidia's features, and doesn't support ray-tracing.

NVIDIA Hints at GTA V For PC In Fall 2013 – Could Be Optimized For GeForce Cards?
https://wccftech.com/nvidia-hints-gta-v-pc-fall-2013-optimized-geforce-cards/

bru · 26 Nov 2019 at 19:42

What are you on about GTA V doesn't support ray tracing anyway.

Grim5 · 26 Nov 2019 at 19:58

bru said:
OMG AMD is cheating, they completely ignore the reflections and shadowing in this screenshot, I mean just look at how bland the car looks on the AMD side of the image.

And I think we can all now agree that AMD's image quality is sub par and well below that of NVidia.

4K has pretty much confirmed at this point that AMD is cheating image quality because he consistently posts examples where the AMD image looks the worst.

So now we know exactly why AMD isnt' out there shouting "nvidia is cheating!!" - it's the pot calling the kettle black

TNA · 26 Nov 2019 at 20:00

Grim5 said:
4K has pretty much confirmed at this point that AMD is cheating image quality because he consistently posts examples where the AMD image looks the worst.

So now we know exactly why AMD isnt' out there shouting "nvidia is cheating!!" - it's the pot calling the kettle black

Yep. All he is doing is making AMD look bad and embarrassing himself. But he can't see this.

shankly1985 · 26 Nov 2019 at 20:16

4K8KW10 said:
Yup, GTA V looks like a TWIMTBP title, featuring nvidia's things, and those reflections should be some type of pre-ray-tracing image optimisations.

Anyways, still, the AMD card provides better image quality in the areas which are supported by it.
We all know that AMD doesn't support nvidia's features, and doesn't support ray-tracing.

NVIDIA Hints at GTA V For PC In Fall 2013 – Could Be Optimized For GeForce Cards?
https://wccftech.com/nvidia-hints-gta-v-pc-fall-2013-optimized-geforce-cards/

???

GTA 5 has tech in the game from both Nvidia and AMD it wasn't a sponsored title at all. Both AMD and Nvidia released optimised drivers for the game at release. Not sure why that video has reflections turned off for the AMD card not watched it.

Edit

Raytracing? LOL in GTA 5 ???

4K8KW10 · 26 Nov 2019 at 20:51

Grim5 said:
AMD is cheating image quality

Except that nvidia pays the developers to turn features off on Radeon cards.
(DX10.1 support, ASync support, Tesselation support, reflections, the list goes on and on)
Remember removal of proper reflections in ray-traced titles and then putting worse ray-tracing on them?!

bru · 26 Nov 2019 at 20:55

TNA said:
Listen, and understand. That 4K8K is out there. It can’t be bargained with. It can’t be reasoned with. It doesn’t feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are brain dead.

Ok now that made me chuckle.

TNA · 26 Nov 2019 at 20:56

bru said:
Ok now that made me chuckle.

Gregster · 26 Nov 2019 at 22:56

4K8KW10 said:
Except that nvidia pays the developers to turn features off on Radeon cards.
(DX10.1 support, ASync support, Tesselation support, reflections, the list goes on and on)
Remember removal of proper reflections in ray-traced titles and then putting worse ray-tracing on them?!

I would lend you a spade to dig that hole but I see you already have your own. Cheers for the comedy

james.miller · 27 Nov 2019 at 10:22

4k8kw10 buries himself in yet another thread. Its beautiful :cool:

Ayahuasca · 27 Nov 2019 at 11:21

Remember the days when LambChop would get suspended for far less :confused:

Ian Evey · 27 Nov 2019 at 11:47

4k8k is right!
I just played gta v on my 4k tv using my 1060 and my tv added all sorts of magic stuff including raytracing... :rolleyes:

Gregster · 27 Nov 2019 at 12:24

Ayahuasca said:
Remember the days when LambChop would get suspended for far less

Noooo, I enjoy the fun reading in truth. I am hoping that nobody takes him serious though and can see he is pretty clueless when it comes to tech.

LePhuronn · 27 Nov 2019 at 13:33

TNA said:
Listen, and understand. That 4K8K is out there. It can’t be bargained with. It can’t be reasoned with. It doesn’t feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are brain dead.

Dude, he's not worth the Terminator quote!

4K8KW10 · 27 Nov 2019 at 15:25

Gregster said:
I would lend you a spade to dig that hole but I see you already have your own. Cheers for the comedy

I read all kinds of comments. Look, people know it best:

https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2010/11/19/testing-nvidia-vs-amd-image-quality/

Ian Evey said:
4k8k is right!
I just played gta v on my 4k tv using my 1060 and my tv added all sorts of magic stuff including raytracing...

My Panasonic 4KTV has a Studio Master Colours processed by a Quad Core Pro.

And in the menu, it have selected the following:

*Noise Reduction is set to Max
*MPEG Remaster is set to Max
*Resolution Remaster is set to Max
*Intelligent Frame Creation is set to Max

Now, explain what these functions are for?!