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AMD what are they doing?

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easyrider said:
They realesed BD and will have to eat humble pie by dropping the price of the 7900 series.

I mean...some person at the top out of touch with reality?

Surely a Global company like AMD is not this silly?
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What is this, since when is selling something at an increased profit then reducing to "normal" profit bad for AMD?

Nvidia for years has been forced to anything from drastically reduce price to below costs(260gtx) through to just having to be competitive and similarly priced to a product that costs 40% less for AMD to make(5870 vs 470-480gtx, 6970 vs 570-580gtx). Does that make them "silly" no, thats called, business.

Surely you can't be that "silly". Charge people stupid enough to pay through the teeth more, then drop prices and get all the other sales AS WELL, and have overall higher profits. AMD has been "good" lately and not exploited their customers..... in the world of business that is rare and THAT is what is seen as silly.

I mean, Apple, anyone ever heard of them selling Ipad's or Ipod's at a fair cost for a small margin and being nice to their customers? No, they charge through the teeth for hardware and a fairly simple device that costs far less to make and has a ridiculous margin on it.

Your idea's in recent threads are all beyond comprehension because while AMD was being quite "nice", in a business sense they've been doing the exact opposite to most other companies. They finally follow almost every other business example in the world, including Nvidia, and charge through the teeth while they can and you call it silly.

THen your fantastic little "you mark my words, prices will drop and AMD will look foolish and you'll all have to admit how right I was" threads.

Here's a hint, EVERYONE thinks the prices will drop, you are not a sole voice that is predicting something no one else can, you are just saying, in repeated threads what everyone else knows will happen....... while also posting absolutely ridiculous opinions on pretty standard business practices.

Do Intel look "silly" when they sell 5-10k £700 hex core cpu's, then release a model 100Mhz faster and drop that CPU price to £400 and have the new model at £700.... then find more people buying the £400 version? No, because this has been standard business practice for 100 years, for everything.

AMD's up till 7970 model of "undercut competition FAR more than required" is a VERY rare business practice.
 
drunkenmaster said:
What is this, since when is selling something at an increased profit then reducing to "normal" profit bad for AMD?

Nvidia for years has been forced to anything from drastically reduce price to below costs(260gtx) through to just having to be competitive and similarly priced to a product that costs 40% less for AMD to make(5870 vs 470-480gtx, 6970 vs 570-580gtx). Does that make them "silly" no, thats called, business.

Surely you can't be that "silly". Charge people stupid enough to pay through the teeth more, then drop prices and get all the other sales AS WELL, and have overall higher profits. AMD has been "good" lately and not exploited their customers..... in the world of business that is rare and THAT is what is seen as silly.

I mean, Apple, anyone ever heard of them selling Ipad's or Ipod's at a fair cost for a small margin and being nice to their customers? No, they charge through the teeth for hardware and a fairly simple device that costs far less to make and has a ridiculous margin on it.

Your idea's in recent threads are all beyond comprehension because while AMD was being quite "nice", in a business sense they've been doing the exact opposite to most other companies. They finally follow almost every other business example in the world, including Nvidia, and charge through the teeth while they can and you call it silly.

THen your fantastic little "you mark my words, prices will drop and AMD will look foolish and you'll all have to admit how right I was" threads.

Here's a hint, EVERYONE thinks the prices will drop, you are not a sole voice that is predicting something no one else can, you are just saying, in repeated threads what everyone else knows will happen....... while also posting absolutely ridiculous opinions on pretty standard business practices.

Do Intel look "silly" when they sell 5-10k £700 hex core cpu's, then release a model 100Mhz faster and drop that CPU price to £400 and have the new model at £700.... then find more people buying the £400 version? No, because this has been standard business practice for 100 years, for everything.

AMD's up till 7970 model of "undercut competition FAR more than required" is a VERY rare business practice.
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Which is fine for the top card like the 7970, but the 7950s are supposed to be the cards they sell a bit more volume on yet I bet they have sold under 30 on OcUK and looking at other places they are selling just as poorly if not worse.

What's the use in each retailer having 100's in stock if they don't sell for what AMD are asking for them?
 
Useless thread, if you don't like AMD's offers, go buy nvidia's gtx580 that is not overpriced. Or aern more so prices won't be silly...
 
So in other words op, AMD have made a product you clearly desire with every fibre of your being as you constantly talk about it, but you are upset because you don't want to pay for it.

Gotcha.

My advice is wait, the market will correct itself and all will be well. Early adopters always pay through the nose
 
**My 2p on this

If you don't like the prices of AMD cards, don't keep looking at them.
AMD are getting as much market with their cards as they can before Keplar (sp) comes out.

Why isn't Keplar out yet? Are Nvidia that confident they will blow AMD away?

When Keplar does come out, will they produce a card that outperforms its AMD counterpart AND undercut it on price. No. They will have a small premium as it will be the premium product. AMD will always have a good standing, if Keplar pulls a BD and fails miserably then AMD already have a foothold, likewise if Keplar is sooo much better, chances are AMD will be cheaper and I mean it's not as if there is a global economic crisis is there? (Oh, ther is isn't there so most people are spending as little as possible)

If people want to pay for an AMD card they will. I would love one, I have about £200 spare, I'll either save up, buy a cheaper alternative or finance one and spend 20 years paying it off.
 
Its not about companies being nice!!!!!!

Apple products are overpriced...But they still sell

Sony making a loss on every PS3 they sell but don't care as they managed to get a Blu-ray drive in every household meaning they won the bluray format battle without anyone realizing.

The 7900 is overpriced but its not selling. Whats the point in that?

If I buy a guitar I gauge the market....I don't have it stuck in my house collecting dust.

Something is only worth what somebody is willing to pay and you price it accordingly

That's the basic rule of business...If you don't, you end up with stock and then you adjust the price until people's ears ***** up.

I'll start a guitar auction @ 99p to generate massive interest. I don't use a buy it now or start at just below the reserve.

I have priced high and it doesn't work.
 
Wow, did we need ANOTHER topic with you whinging about AMD prices in the Graphics forums Easyrider?
How many more of these are you going to create? It's coming off as a bit pathetic.
 
Suggest OP is butthurt that his tired 570 doesn't mix it with the big boys, and due to him being an Nvidia shill prevents him from buying AMD + Nothing on the horizon confirmed from his green buddies? ;)
 
dave_beast said:
Suggest OP is butthurt that his tired 570 doesn't mix it with the big boys, and due to him being an Nvidia shill prevents him from buying AMD + Nothing on the horizon confirmed from his green buddies? ;)
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The manufacturer is not the problem, he just likes to have a good moan at prices. It seems the 3000 topics on the issue already weren't enough, need more of them on the front page of graphics to water down the forum a bit.
 
Emlyn_Dewar said:
The manufacturer is not the problem, he just likes to have a good moan at prices. It seems the 3000 topics on the issue already weren't enough, need more of them on the front page of graphics to water down the forum a bit.
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Yeah, I can't understand, no ones forcing him to buy one? White mouse perhaps? :o
 
Do you have concrete proof that AMD's sales predictions for the 7950/7970are not being met so far?

If not, then why do you think they are overpriced?
 
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