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AMD Zen 2 (Ryzen 3000) - *** NO COMPETITOR HINTING ***
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Soldato
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How hard is it to add 8 hours to 9am, apparently really hard.
17:00 UK time, Wednesday 9th Jan.
That will teach me for trusting one of h4rm0ny's posts
That's cocked my plans up then because I'll still be working at 17:00pm 
"Not further purchase validation but even IF it is launched tomorrow and arrives in the first half of the year and is as fast as my processor, I gotta have Intel for X specific reason thus validating my purchase, thank you"
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"I need a new oven, therefore my 9900K wins"
I am really curious about whether AMD will give any info on Threadripper. I mean, consider this: As of yet, with Zen and Zen+, AMD started small, then built bigger chips. First Ryzen , then Threadripper, then Epyc in 2017. Same in 2018, just no Epyc. This time, Epyc is first. Shouldn't that mean it's way easier launching TR next because it's much closer to Epyc in design ?
"Not further purchase validation but even IF it is launched tomorrow and arrives in the first half of the year and is as fast as my processor, I gotta have Intel for X specific reason thus validating my purchase, thank you"
TROLL
Unless anyone buys a Ryzen according to you and others in this thread they are wrong....This is dangerous and quite frankly boring as ****
You have no other reason to argue other than to troll....9900k is faster than 2700x. FACT. This cannot be denied on any level. You can argue cost ,you can argue against your brainwashed rhetoric all day long but it doesn't change a single thing.
Its people like you and others in this thread that provide AMD with this negative connotation. Guess what? Ive probably had more AMD chips than you and looking back on your posts I'm trying to work out what you exactly bring to this forum...
Its pathetic.
Not a troll, not even slightly. You won't accept that your continued "well I wanted the best processor that started with a 9, so no matter what, mine will be better" lines are purchase validation.
Anyway. Fine, I'll leave you be. It's meant in good humour "I wanted the best processor that would double as a space heater so no matter what, mine will be better" etc.
Absolutely use whatever ends up better for you. Framing what's better around ultra niche uses and throwing pre-preemptive shade "well, mine will be the best at avx benchmarks!" just looks like sour grapes and regretting an expensive buy (so you may equally want to give it a rest).
Genuinely though, I'll quit it
Also... I've actually sat having to fight AMD folks I'd normally be a "brother in arms" with over the 9900k. Right this very second - absolutely the best CPU for gaming (maybe equal to a 5.3/4 8700k) and for a decent number of other functions. It's so close that the premium paid for it is absolute robbery but completely with you on the "money aside, objectively the best". It is. The 2700X barely holds a candle to a 8700K for gaming (though, it's better most everywhere else) the 9900k is 8 golden cores from the same silicon.
This is the objectivity you purport to have though. As said, the shade throwing isn't that. It's vainly attempting to frame what's likely to be a cheaper, possibly faster chip in a bad light so it doesn't make your purchase look silly. When/if you buy whatever Ryzen chip (if it's objectively better and, as if you are unbiased, which as I said previously I completely believe), there's going to a bunch of folks reminding you about all these edge cases you laid out against it and why you had to have the 9900k you bought.
Anyway. Fine, I'll leave you be. It's meant in good humour "I wanted the best processor that would double as a space heater so no matter what, mine will be better" etc.
Absolutely use whatever ends up better for you. Framing what's better around ultra niche uses and throwing pre-preemptive shade "well, mine will be the best at avx benchmarks!" just looks like sour grapes and regretting an expensive buy (so you may equally want to give it a rest).
Genuinely though, I'll quit it
Also... I've actually sat having to fight AMD folks I'd normally be a "brother in arms" with over the 9900k. Right this very second - absolutely the best CPU for gaming (maybe equal to a 5.3/4 8700k) and for a decent number of other functions. It's so close that the premium paid for it is absolute robbery but completely with you on the "money aside, objectively the best". It is. The 2700X barely holds a candle to a 8700K for gaming (though, it's better most everywhere else) the 9900k is 8 golden cores from the same silicon.
This is the objectivity you purport to have though. As said, the shade throwing isn't that. It's vainly attempting to frame what's likely to be a cheaper, possibly faster chip in a bad light so it doesn't make your purchase look silly. When/if you buy whatever Ryzen chip (if it's objectively better and, as if you are unbiased, which as I said previously I completely believe), there's going to a bunch of folks reminding you about all these edge cases you laid out against it and why you had to have the 9900k you bought.
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True, it's faster.
I've been toying with the thought which processor to buy for a while now. Consider this:
-9900K: not enough for what I'll be doing in multicore, and only 16 GPU lanes, 4 NVMe lanes, 4 chipset lanes. Would be nice for gaming, but can't do it for work.
-7980XE : nice for games and workstation, but price performance is ****, the arch is old and I generally dislike the idea of buying skylake X, especially now
-2700X: Same problems as the 9900K, AND not as good for games.
-TR2950X: good price and workstation perf, but meh-ish in games, and it's a bit wonky fiddling with game and creator modes.
So, I hope Zen 2 TR will solve this conundrum.
No I won't you have invented this to suit some odd AMD fanatical Agenda
Never said this so you are trolling
The sheer arrogance of this post astounds me. I dont regret anything about about my new upgrade..Why would I ? Oh and where did I actually say
I never said that so its clear you are trolling.
Ive spent over 30k building my Recording studio so I'm not going to build a lack lustre central PC for the role. You know nothing about me, No nothing about my past hardware choices and yet you continue to post like a 3 year all because easy bought a 9900k
It's really weird behaviour.
In that scenario.. total sense.
Sometimes you have to spell things out to AMD tunnel vision trolls on the internet why other hardware is better for certain uses.
I couldn't give a damn whether you think my purchase is silly... I've spent 3k on a guitar before is that silly too?
You haven't even got an argument. You have unashamedly created sentences that I never wrote or even mentioned to create some weird Pseudo quality and assurance post about my hardware choices.
its genuinely bizarre.
I'm really curious how RAM latency turns out. like, they wouldn't have implemented the IO die if it made latency worse, but I'd love to know more details. Like, how high is the latency ? is it on local access level (2950X NUMA level?). Let's see what Empress Su tells us come tomorrow.
The whole "Rome before Ryzen" still is a major turnoff though. Technically, they could launch Rome in February or March and Ryzen a month after that, I guess, but somehow I suspect that won't be the case.
The whole "Rome before Ryzen" still is a major turnoff though. Technically, they could launch Rome in February or March and Ryzen a month after that, I guess, but somehow I suspect that won't be the case.
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Still no leaks. Is that a good sign or?
Normally, no. I wonder if AMD and its partners Acer, ASUS, Dell, HP, Huawei, Lenovo, or Samsung are affected.
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What other leaks do you want? What other leaks are you expecting? We have a full rundown of Ryzen 3000 SKUs with core counts, base clocks, boost clocks, TDP and pricing AND 3 Navi GPUs with names, die, RAM, target performance level, TDP and price.
What else is there to actually leak? Threadripper never shows up until at least August. The existence of X570 is guaranteed, so that's not leak worthy. PCI-E 4? Vega II?
But then what's the point in riding the hype train and watching the keynote and event if everything is going to be leaked beforehand.
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Benchmarks on actual running systems.
Of which won't mean a damn thing because we won't be on final motherboard versions, possibly still not final silicon for the CPUs, and all numbers will be cherry picked values to shine Ryzen in the best possible light.
I say again: what's the point in getting excited for the keynote and the entire event if you want everything leaked to you now?