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AMD Zen 2 (Ryzen 3000) - *** NO COMPETITOR HINTING ***

Just buy a £30 GT710 or something, problem solved.

Or one of the many SKUs that have a GPU. For me, AMDs lack of iGPU is a minus, as most of the machines I buy professionally are just basic workstations. Any saving going AMD will be offset with having to buy a GPU... I just wish they'd include a 2-3 CU iGPU on all Ryzen chips, it'd be TINY anyway
 
Or one of the many SKUs that have a GPU. For me, AMDs lack of iGPU is a minus, as most of the machines I buy professionally are just basic workstations. Any saving going AMD will be offset with having to buy a GPU... I just wish they'd include a 2-3 CU iGPU on all Ryzen chips, it'd be TINY anyway

See their new APU's announced yesterday :)
 
I completely disagree. Keynotes nowadays are simply product launches. As per Steve Jobb's keynotes speeches.
Its a CONSUMER SHOW. Consumers are watching. She wont dither around talking about the changing world... She will be presenting (selling) new products.

Has no one seen one of these before??

I agree with you. AMD has a rare chance to impress this so called changing world with something that the world hasn't seen yet. Exactly what these 7nm Ryzens are meant to be. A Keynote - a great time and place to offer the world solutions one of their kind.
 
Or one of the many SKUs that have a GPU. For me, AMDs lack of iGPU is a minus, as most of the machines I buy professionally are just basic workstations. Any saving going AMD will be offset with having to buy a GPU... I just wish they'd include a 2-3 CU iGPU on all Ryzen chips, it'd be TINY anyway

No, waste of silicon area because of rare uses is not OK. Why sacrifice the advantage they have?
 
See my post above. Intel have a nice market going on by having top to bottom iGPU.

Intel is wrong corrupt entity. Don't push them as an example for anything.

Better return the iGPUs on the motherboards and let the ones who want them just buy that.
No need to enforce inferior CPU performance on everyone.
 
APUs are all well and good but they aren't the top tier CPU performance wise and you're paying for capable GPU (I.E. die space) when all you need is something to render Excel
For low end desktops running excel they have the Athlon APU line which is all you need for basic office machines.
 
For low end desktops running excel they have the Athlon APU line which is all you need for basic office machines.

We buy i5 and i7 machines, many, many organisations need faster than bottom barrel CPUs but no advanced rendering capability. This is a fact, I'm not going to argue with anyone. Ryzen doesn't fit the bill, the APUs are coming along but we don't need Vega this that and 'tother.

8C 16T with video out to 2/3 screens would sell to enterprise very well via OEMs
 
We buy i5 and i7 machines, many, many organisations need faster than bottom barrel CPUs but no advanced rendering capability. This is a fact, I'm not going to argue with anyone. Ryzen doesn't fit the bill, the APUs are coming along but we don't need Vega this that and 'tother.

8C 16T with video out to 2/3 screens would sell to enterprise very well via OEMs

There is a Ryzen 5 2400G. Why don't you need a Vega 11 but you need UHD 620 graphics? :confused:


I have a Ryzen 5 2500U and not happy that its weak iGPU is run at PCIe 3.0 x16 while my dedicated graphics RX 560X at only PCIe 3.0 x8.
Makes no sense :confused:
 
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Just seen intel's CES keynote (shortened down to 9 mins) here, covering all the keypoints:
So consumer 10nm is laptop only and will ship in Q4. With nothing new in the desktop space from Intel, this year really is wide open. It's now or never for AMD.
 
We buy i5 and i7 machines, many, many organisations need faster than bottom barrel CPUs but no advanced rendering capability. This is a fact, I'm not going to argue with anyone. Ryzen doesn't fit the bill, the APUs are coming along but we don't need Vega this that and 'tother.

8C 16T with video out to 2/3 screens would sell to enterprise very well via OEMs

4C/8T or 8C/8T with dual 4K iGPU would be more than great for 99% office use, would be a major upgrade ;)

I am writing this on my HP office desktop which is currently fitted with a 2T G620 and dual 1080p screen :(
 
So consumer 10nm is laptop only and will ship in Q4. With nothing new in the desktop space from Intel, this year really is wide open. It's now or never for AMD.

Literally this.

I was thinking that with all the AMD leaks that intel were somehow going to come out strong with their 10nm 9th gen chips, but the fact the max is still 8c/16t with nothing much changing, Ryzen really has a HUGE opportunity to obliterate the cpu market.
 
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