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Admittedly there were a few very nice Vega'saaaa Same as Vega crushing competition... in Power draw but nvm
3800X is pretty damn good too. Interesting to see what the Threadripper's bring to the table though.
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Ah Vega got bad press, it would undervolt to 180w and be faster than stockaaaa Same as Vega crushing competition... in Power draw but nvm
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Tell that to mine, it ate 320W for breakfast and **** out epic framerates as a byproduct
Though I did run it with 1752Mhz Core with 1100mv most of the time, was faster on avg than running 1200mv due to the reduction in heat
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Yeah true it "could" spit out 300w plus lolTell that to mine, it ate 320W for breakfast and **** out epic framerates as a byproduct
Though I did run it with 1752Mhz Core with 1100mv most of the time, was faster on avg than running 1200mv due to the reduction in heat
I held the number 1 firestrike ultra score for it
I water cooled it, flashed it with the lc bios, power play modded it got 400w out of it, mazing, I had 2 in crossfire that outperformed a 2080ti easy, they were monsters and I miss them
CPU stats don't seem to match up between Ryzen Master and HWInfo. Which one is thought to give most correct info?
For me when the CPU is idling Ryzen Master shows the cores dropping down to <1GHz and some sleeping whereas HWInfo rarely shows a core dip below 3.8GHz and then only to 3.7GHz.
For me when the CPU is idling Ryzen Master shows the cores dropping down to <1GHz and some sleeping whereas HWInfo rarely shows a core dip below 3.8GHz and then only to 3.7GHz.
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Ryzen Master is the most accurate as it's designed specifically for the new Zen 2 chips. Others haven't been fully updated to recognise the way the new CPU's operate.
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RM doesn’t log max speeds though, and often it will boost for mere milliseconds. You are probably just missing the boosts.
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Well it's pretty much still the same
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That's a shame, HWInfo shows much better boosting than RM
As robfosters says, every monitoring program has different poling rates, RM might just not pick up on those peak frequencies as its poling is longer than HWinfo etc.
I'm not saying don't use HWinfo, I use it myself, it's a really useful tool, you just have to be aware of its limitations, i.e. the reason HWInfo might not show the lower frequencies is because it can't read the sleep state of a core like RM can, so shows the last frequency it can see before the core sleeps.
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Sounds like you've got more issues than just RAM then. However, I've not followed thought all of your tests and checks that you've done with system so far, and the software etc. so don't want to say 100% it is the CPU or even the board.
Can you list what you have tried? I assume you started with a very basic setup, just the bare minimum connected to your machine with a clean OS install and the newest drivers etc?
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There’s a new release coming soon, v6.11 build 3890. They’ve have concentrated mainly on Zen 2 with it, so should be a lot more reliable to use.
Yeah, I'm using that beta but still doesn't see the lower clocks or sleep status.
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It's a fresh install, i've also tried booting to my other SSD that has stuff already on it from my Intel hardware, it's the same with that too.
Whatever drivers are installed was done by Windows, the main thing i can see is the GPU drivers being almost 2 years old but i don't think it would cause all this?
Simple things can make it crash like clicking a link, opening a new web page, browsing folders or just logging into Windows. I can run stress tests and most of the time nothing happens til i go and do something else.
So.. Could be anything doing this but it's no good as it is. It can run fine for a bit at times but then starts acting up again
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PSU? New or Old?
You'd be surprised what incompatible drivers can do to a system. I assume also you installed the latest Ryzen chipset drivers?
Unless you have done a full list before, it might be worth just doing a full run down of what you have, from when etc. Fragmented information is not a great start to solving a problem that could be one of a hundred different things.
List all of your hardware in the system, BIOS revision in use, RAM model and revision, number of DIMMs and in which slots, voltages being used CPU/SoC/RAM etc., software in use, peripherals plugged in to the system. Also as above, the PSU details.
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The system is running on everything auto in the BIOS. RAM at 2133Mhz, 1.35v. RAM from my Intel system but not the full 32GB kit, 2 of the sticks to make up 16GB.G.Skill ripjaws 4 2800Mhz in slots A2 and B2.
PSU TX650M Corsair (new), board Asus TUF x570 with latest BIOS. 3700x with stock cooler. Samsung 840 pro 512GB and Kingston 120GB SSD. GPU MSI 980Ti. Just standard things plugged in like KB, mouse and screen.
The only drivers installed so far are what Windows installed by itself. Software, hardly anything bar a few benchmarking tools and nord vpn. I already took 2 videos to show how easy I can make it crash, I will upload them later even though I suppose it's not really going to help much.
Odd how I can play a game off my other drive for a little while and nothing happens usually.
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could be a problem what drivers for controller windws installed ?? Windows or amd ones ??
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If you swap to the other two sticks of RAM does the same thing happen?
You really need to install the Ryzen + chip-set drivers, and the latest GeForce drivers as well.
Install the latest AMD chipset drivers from the AMD website (https://www.amd.com/en/support) choose Chipsets -> AMD Socket AM4 -> X570, download the AMD Chipset Drivers for Windows 10.
I would also recommend to install the latest GPU drivers for your graphics card from the Nvidia website. I dont have Nvidia GPU so not sure which driver to recommend.
If still having issues:
- Check all cables / connections / data cables / power cables / PCIE cards etc are plugged in fully no loose connections (including connections on the PSU end as its a modular PSU). No cable breaks etc. Include checks for any possible short-circuits, exposed wires touching motherboard etc, fans are working, the motherboard system panels connections is plugged in properly, etc.
- Unplug any non-essential devices e.g. webcams, etc. Remove any drivers you might think could be causing conflicts.
- Check your SSD drives SMART info for any errors e.g. Crystal Disk Info
- Use "Bluescreenview" application to get more info about your blue screen crashes, might give you a clue which component or driver caused the problem
- Check windows event logs for any critical errors e.g. WHEA errors (might give you a clue which component caused the issue), Event Viewer -> Custom View -> Administrative Events
- Check temperatures look ok e.g. hwinfo64 / Ryzen Master
- I would avoid any of the motherboard manufacturer software like Asus AI suite, can cause problems.
- Did you install Windows while you were using the XMP profile on your RAM? Are you sure your system is 100% stable when using the XMP (overclocked profile) for your RAM. If your system is not stable when using the XMP profile there is a possibility your Windows install was corrupt to begin with. The safest method to install windows is to use completely Bios Default settings ("Load Optimized Settings") so your RAM is not overclocked and least likely to cause instability issues.
- If you do install Windows I would recommend to check you are using the UEFI mode instead of the legacy Bios mode (MBR).
- I would be tempted to do a fresh install of Windows using Bios default settings ("Load Optimized Settings") unless you have already done this.
I cant think of much else to check so you would probably need to start investigating and testing individual components.