AMD Zen 2 (Ryzen 3000) - *** NO COMPETITOR HINTING ***

[humbug]

He said he did HCI memtest. Maybe hes got some faulty cou or mem kit died ??

Ah ok, if the mem kit died it wouldn't boot at all.

It could be that the Module simply failed to scrub out the AIDA64 data, turning Pro ODT up a notch might sort that.

DRam Calculator is useful for getting all those settings right, especially if running above XMP values.

Personally i wouldn't speed to much time on getting the last few Mhz out of RAM, simply cranking the IF clock up as far as it goes has the same effect.

Its that not the RAM speed which improves the performance, it was always that however with Ryzen 1000 and 2000 you had to overclock the RAM to get the IF clock up because they were locked together, Ryzen 3000 has the option to decouple it and set it manually.

 

[Illuminist]

Ah ok, if the mem kit died it wouldn't boot at all.

It could be that the Module simply failed to scrub out the AIDA64 data, turning Pro ODT up a notch might sort that.

DRam Calculator is useful for getting all those settings right, especially if running above XMP values.

Personally i wouldn't speed to much time on getting the last few Mhz out of RAM, simply cranking the IF clock up as far as it goes has the same effect.

Its that not the RAM speed which improves the performance, it was always that however with Ryzen 1000 and 2000 you had to overclock the RAM to get the IF clock up because they were locked together, Ryzen 3000 has the option to decouple it and set it manually.

Is weird that ryzen master is so strict on not letting you uncouple the if and ram

 

[humbug]

Is weird that ryzen master is so strict on not letting you uncouple the if and ram

Yeah... even if its in the BIOS, was it you who told me that?

 

[Dirk Diggler]

Its that not the RAM speed which improves the performance, it was always that however with Ryzen 1000 and 2000 you had to overclock the RAM to get the IF clock up because they were locked together, Ryzen 3000 has the option to decouple it and set it manually.

The IF clock and RAM clock should match, so no point in "decoupling", surely?

 

[humbug]

The IF clock and RAM clock should match, so no point in "decoupling", surely?

If you can only get 3200Mhz (1600 FLK) then pushing the FLK to 1900Mhz its that much faster.

 

[ljt]

Is weird that ryzen master is so strict on not letting you uncouple the if and ram

I found that if you have XMP enabled then Ryzen Master won't let you decouple the clocks, but if you disable XMP and clock RAM manually it does allow it...

 

[Illuminist]

I found that if you have XMP enabled then Ryzen Master won't let you decouple the clocks, but if you disable XMP and clock RAM manually it does allow it...

Just tried that and it says no Mr illuminist, no you can't you can't

 

[Vince]

Just tried that and it says no Mr illuminist, no you can't you can't

12ghz!!! thats my guess!

 

[ljt]

Just tried that and it says no Mr illuminist, no you can't you can't

lol, perhaps it just likes me better

 

[Illuminist]

12ghz!!! thats my guess!

Hahaha

 

[Illuminist]

lol, perhaps it just likes me better

I'm sure!

I can set it in the bios and then it will appear in the ryzen master, but then if I change anything it won't let me unless the if and ram are together, it asks me to either enable that or do one

 

[Vince]

When can I buy gen 3 TR? forget about this 3900x, when are the big boy chips coming? I have Epyc coming this Friday so now need matching 3rd gen workstation hardware

 

[awaybreaktoday]

When can I buy gen 3 TR? forget about this 3900x, when are the big boy chips coming? I have Epyc coming this Friday so now need matching 3rd gen workstation hardware

You can get them already, I have x4 Threeadripper 3000 64/128 core. 512M gaming cache. 3900x is for cheap pussy cats......

 

[ljt]

I'm sure!

I can set it in the bios and then it will appear in the ryzen master, but then if I change anything it won't let me unless the if and ram are together, it asks me to either enable that or do one

I'll retract my statement actually lol.

I hadn't tried de-coupling the Mem/Fclk in the latest Ryzen master. It worked when I first had my 3700x on release with an older RM version! Now it seems it doesn't like it.

On the other hand I've found a bit of a hack to get my 3700X to actually boost to its rated 4.4Ghz in light single thread tasks. I set PBO/Auto OC on, but didn't increase any of the PPT/TDC/EDC values from stock, I just put Auto OC on +25Mhz and now at least 2 of my cores in the last 10 minutes have boosted to 4.4Ghz, and voltages haven't increased from a normal stock 3700X (i.e. 1.21-1.23v on all core boost and about 1.46-1.48v on single core)

 

[Illuminist]

I'll retract my statement actually lol.

I hadn't tried de-coupling the Mem/Fclk in the latest Ryzen master. It worked when I first had my 3700x on release with an older RM version! Now it seems it doesn't like it.

On the other hand I've found a bit of a hack to get my 3700X to actually boost to its rated 4.4Ghz in light single thread tasks. I set PBO/Auto OC on, but didn't increase any of the PPT/TDC/EDC values from stock, I just put Auto OC on +25Mhz and now at least 2 of my cores in the last 10 minutes have boosted to 4.4Ghz, and voltages haven't increased from a normal stock 3700X (i.e. 1.21-1.23v on all core boost and about 1.46-1.48v on single core)

I'm on all core 4.4 but it says in only using 1.1v on every program I try, i's this a bug or have I won the diamond chip award?

 

[Illuminist]

When can I buy gen 3 TR? forget about this 3900x, when are the big boy chips coming? I have Epyc coming this Friday so now need matching 3rd gen workstation hardware

September I think my dude

 

[Steedie]

If you can only get 3200Mhz (1600 FLK) then pushing the FLK to 1900Mhz its that much faster.

I got next to the same performance with an IF of 1800MHz and RAM at 1600MHz as I did with a 1:1 ratio of 1533MHz (RAM couldn't get to 3200 on the BIOS at the time). It was only when I tightened the timings did I really see a big difference on the 1:1 ratio of 1800MHz with the new RAM

 

[Vince]

September I think my dude

If they do what I think they might then I'm all over that. We shall see!!

 

[ljt]

I'm on all core 4.4 but it says in only using 1.1v on every program I try, i's this a bug or have I won the diamond chip award?

4.4Ghz all core @ 1.1v?? Sounds like clock stretching. What's your CB15 score with that? I did a quick run @ 4.4Ghz @ 1.35v and got 2313, but it wasn't stable at that as CB20 crashed.

 

[Illuminist]

4.4Ghz all core @ 1.1v?? Sounds like clock stretching. What's your CB15 score with that? I did a quick run @ 4.4Ghz @ 1.35v and got 2313, but it wasn't stable at that as CB20 crashed.

That sounds very painful, clock stretching!
I assume massively that it is some kinda bug it shows 1.1 on Ryzen master, cpu z, afterburner, hwinfo and aida64.
I will do a cine 15 for you