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He won't, it's not as if he's trying to get 5.3Ghz out of a 9000K, ryzen 2 is limited only by the quality of the silicon not the motherboard, when talking about the 8 core and below chips.
I went X570 as it means I can get a 4900x or 4950x in a few years time on the cheap and pop that in without worrying about it much and probably still overclock if I want :)

Was like £189 so not like the super expensive ones.
 
He won't, it's not as if he's trying to get 5.3Ghz out of a 9000K, ryzen 2 is limited only by the quality of the silicon not the motherboard, when talking about the 8 core and below chips.

This, my trusty old board is not flashy, in fact its even a little ugly and cheap looking, but its rock solid, it just works to the point where you forget about it. sometimes you can't even buy that no matter how much you pay. :)

Hats off to ASRock they built a good early Ryzen board.
 
How's the bios, I heard it has limited options and stability issues, is this sorted now?, am I going to have full access to memory tweaking etc. Started looking at b450 boards but they are all rubbish by the way people go on except some ITX £150 boards and the MSI boards with decent VRM's but I don't want MSI and I want something better than ALC892 audio. I don't need x570 for a 3600 but I think I might just get one as I have no choice with b450 options. The Strix b450F looked the nuts with decent audio and better Lan but heard the vrm sucks which is shame and slow support for bios updates and also I want to guarantee my ram will run at 3600 or 3733.

BIOS is really good IMO. It has always been fine for me and always been fast and stable. That's not true for everyone though apparently so I can only relate my experience.

There have been regular BIOS updates from Gigabyte (mostly beta versions but they have all been fine for me).
 
This, my trusty old board is not flashy, in fact its even a little ugly and cheap looking, but its rock solid, it just works to the point where you forget about it. sometimes you can't even buy that no matter how much you pay. :)

Hats off to ASRock they built a good early Ryzen board.
So you are sticking with that then and waiting AM5? :)
 
I went X570 as it means I can get a 4900x or 4950x in a few years time on the cheap and pop that in without worrying about it much and probably still overclock if I want :)

Was like £189 so not like the super expensive ones.

Yeah you did a full system upgrade so makes sense to go 570.
 
Why i can't apply boot order changes on crosshair viii? When i change boot order and click save bios says: no changes have been made?
 
I went X570 as it means I can get a 4900x or 4950x in a few years time on the cheap and pop that in without worrying about it much and probably still overclock if I want :)

Was like £189 so not like the super expensive ones.

Agree with you. For £224 the X570 Taichi is the equivalent of the Z170 Formula OC.
Minus the dehumidifier the Z170 Formula OC had :D
 
I have an MSI x570 carbon that claims "no changes have been made" when I adjust fan curves, but I'm still able to select "yes" and it still saves my settings.
 
Agree with you. For £224 the X570 Taichi is the equivalent of the Z170 Formula OC.
Minus the dehumidifier the Z170 Formula OC had :D

Genuine question from someone who is about to pull the trigger on a ryzen build and is considering a Taichi - is that a good thing, comparing it to the Z170? :confused:
 
Genuine question from someone who is about to pull the trigger on a ryzen build and is considering a Taichi - is that a good thing, comparing it to the Z170? :confused:
Asrock Z170 Formula OC was/is the best intel motherboard the last 5 years in terms of features & cost. (same price at around £200).
Is the motherboard with hacked bios can have 7700K, 8700K and 9900K run on it. No other Intel motherboard can boast that.
Is also the motherboard where 6700K had guaranteed 5Ghz with just 1 click and 5.2 Ghz with proper overclock on air with safe voltages. Let alone stable memory overclock again with 1 click all way to 4133C16!
(from a 3600C16 kit).

And this board was so feature packed that came with dehumidifier, hence the joke. (had one, really impressive board).

X570 Taichi is equally impressive on the amount of things can someone tweak beyond the normal. While for 4 months has proven nothing else than a beast.
Some complains I had about the fan growling last 45 days before bios boot (when bios screen came on stopped), apparently was bios issue with 2.10 and 2.11. Because with 2.46 this has stopped as it wasn't existant before either.
And through my hands CH6 passed twice (April & October 2017), CH7 May 2018 also. And various Intel motherboards since.
 
Asrock Z170 Formula OC was/is the best intel motherboard the last 5 years in terms of features & cost. (same price at around £200).
Is the motherboard with hacked bios can have 7700K, 8700K and 9900K run on it. No other Intel motherboard can boast that.
Is also the motherboard where 6700K had guaranteed 5Ghz with just 1 click and 5.2 Ghz with proper overclock on air with safe voltages. Let alone stable memory overclock again with 1 click all way to 4133C16!
(from a 3600C16 kit).

And this board was so feature packed that came with dehumidifier, hence the joke. (had one, really impressive board).

X570 Taichi is equally impressive on the amount of things can someone tweak beyond the normal. While for 4 months has proven nothing else than a beast.
Some complains I had about the fan growling last 45 days before bios boot (when bios screen came on stopped), apparently was bios issue with 2.10 and 2.11. Because with 2.46 this has stopped as it wasn't existant before either.
And through my hands CH6 passed twice (April & October 2017), CH7 May 2018 also. And various Intel motherboards since.

Appreciate that reply, thanks - I thought the Taichi sounded like a good board from what I have read on the interwebs but that has sealed it :)
 
BIOS is really good IMO. It has always been fine for me and always been fast and stable. That's not true for everyone though apparently so I can only relate my experience.

There have been regular BIOS updates from Gigabyte (mostly beta versions but they have all been fine for me).

OK this is my goto if I get x570, looking at a cheap b450 thats decent now to tie me over, never seen anyone mention the 450 Tuf Pro, 2nd only to the MSI VRM's and superior sound, looks half decent better VRM than the strix 450F and newer and upto 30quid cheaper. Surely most of these b450 boards are now shipped with ryzen 3000 compatible bios as all the ones ive looked at have the orange badge now on their official website. Its november now, the stock must have turned over by now, everyone recommending Tomahawk max for out the box is surely redundant now.
 
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There are no guarantees with memory.

It comes down to the IF on the chip you buy and whether the ram you have can run at that speed.

I'd say a safe bet is the 8 Pack team group ram.

Either buy the 3600 kit or the 3800 kit.

My 3200MHz kit is running at 3600MHz. I believe it can go faster but the IF on my CPU will not tolerate more than 1800MHz.

Ah my ram is fine at those speeds, been using tomahawk max for 10 days, its just that the max officially supports 3866mhz in its specs but the older b450 boards usually are 3533/3400 or so offically, I guess because they were written up during Ryzen 2000 days, my question is really do the ones that pre date ryzen 3000 still support the faster speeds ryzen 3000 can acheive. Its the cpu/ram that will dictate right, the boards will not lock it out or not support it right, because I know my ram will do it no problem.
 
Can confirm full access to memory tweaking (unless there is more to tweaking that I don't know of).

Now with latest bios it boots fast also relative to how it was.

My only issue now is my RAM, but I am 99.9% sure that is not the mobo.

Also look at people that have b450 boards, their bench scores are lower than mine even stock for stock, never mine I can easily run mine all core 4.4GHz.

Have they fixed the laggy bios issues and the reseting of bios settings on boot yet?
 
Right, I have a problem. That I didn't notice right at the beginning (pre BIOS updates) but could have been there. I suffer popping and crackle when listening to audio/youtube tec

CPU 3800X Under push pull 280mm
MOBO ASRock phantom Gaming 4 (£160)
RAM 8PACk Team dark Pro 3600Mhz CL16
MSI founder 1080ti under NZXT Kraken x62
Be Quiet 850W PSu
Audeze Mobius Headset (USB connection)

Even at default bios settings where RAM is at 2400 and defualt for CPU such as no PBO/auto overclock etc. Still the same.

Any ideas?
 
Have they fixed the laggy bios issues and the reseting of bios settings on boot yet?
No more laggy bios, not sure what the other issue you mentioned is, can you go into more detail?


Right, I have a problem. That I didn't notice right at the beginning (pre BIOS updates) but could have been there. I suffer popping and crackle when listening to audio/youtube tec

CPU 3800X Under push pull 280mm
MOBO ASRock phantom Gaming 4 (£160)
RAM 8PACk Team dark Pro 3600Mhz CL16
MSI founder 1080ti under NZXT Kraken x62
Be Quiet 850W PSu
Audeze Mobius Headset (USB connection)

Even at default bios settings where RAM is at 2400 and defualt for CPU such as no PBO/auto overclock etc. Still the same.

Any ideas?
Only place I read that was when the guy was overclocking his ram. Edit: Go check your Infinity Fabric setting. Leave it on auto. It might not like whatever setting you set at manually. I leave mine auto.
 
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