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I don't know much more, but chipset drivers ARE responsible for Pcie stuff, and pcie is involved between cpu and gpu.

Am I right in saying that after successful driver install you can use gpu in top slot and see no further issues? Then hardware is not to blame.
 
I don't have the mb at the moment (rma'd to Gigabyte, but they are saying they don't detect anything wrong with it). At the time I dismissed the driver going in as a coincidence and so never moved the gpu back down to try again. Regardless though, there is something wrong with something if I have to move my gpu into a lower slot in order to have drivers install...I just don't know which it is. I wouldn't have sent the mb in if I wasn't convinced it was the most likely cause so I want to make sure it isn't before they return it and I am once again stuck with a non-working system.
 
alec said:
I don't know much more, but chipset drivers ARE responsible for Pcie stuff, and pcie is involved between cpu and gpu.

Am I right in saying that after successful driver install you can use gpu in top slot and see no further issues? Then hardware is not to blame.
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I neglected to mention in my above post that I am honestly not sure. After install the driver the once (and finally getting the gpu driver in for the first and only time as well, I attributed the success on something else (rather dismissing the lower slot change). I had issues with Windows though (which I attributed to the multiple crashes prior to getting the driver in that once) and, after doing a fresh install of Windows, the system resumed crashing at any attempt to install drivers.
 
Toquey said:
I neglected to mention in my above post that I am honestly not sure. After install the driver the once (and finally getting the gpu driver in for the first and only time as well, I attributed the success on something else (rather dismissing the lower slot change). I had issues with Windows though (which I attributed to the multiple crashes prior to getting the driver in that once) and, after doing a fresh install of Windows, the system resumed crashing at any attempt to install drivers.
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If you got the cpu and motherboard from Overclockers UK I'd get in touch with customer services, they may test them both for you to try and find the problem.
 
marms said:
If you got the cpu and motherboard from Overclockers UK I'd get in touch with customer services, they may test them both for you to try and find the problem.
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I wish I could have purchased from Overclockers, but I'm not in the uk (so not an option). I started following this site long before I joined simply because it is so active and seems to have a lot of very knowledgeable people. This site is a big reason I decided to build amd this time. Unfortunately I'm not having much luck with my build...
 
When you get the crashes what information is displayed to you?

Can you set everything to default, even underclock the memory to get a stable windows install? Is it on m.2, regular sata?
 
TNA said:
Ok, so had a look around just now and in bios it is always above 100 in bios. The difference is the figure shoots up by around 0.2 in the bios when spread spectrum is off. Right now I am seeing something like 100.48 in bios with it off.

I was actually going crazy looking for spread spectrum in the bios at one point, but it seems if you manually have it fsb set to 100 then the option disappears. So you need to have it on auto to see it.

In HWiNFO64 my bus speed shows as 100. And in CPU-Z it is 99.98. I suppose it is better than before so I will leave it like this.

Have you changed anything else that maybe helping you see the exact 100 figure in the bios?
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Yea in bios its always off a bit, with spread spectrum on I would see 103.5-105.5 in bios then 98.8 in aida64, with spread off I get 100.44 or so in bios and 100 in aida64. Off is way forward, having much better results overclocking ram.
 
MegaPinches said:
Yea in bios its always off a bit, with spread spectrum on I would see 103.5-105.5 in bios then 98.8 in aida64, with spread off I get 100.44 or so in bios and 100 in aida64. Off is way forward, having much better results overclocking ram.
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Yep. Left it off. Lets hope my new ram is good when it arrives.
 
MegaPinches said:
Just so you know that Aorus Elite overvolts ram from 0.024v idle to 0.036v load, so if you want 1.4v i'd set it to 1.38, use HWinfo to verify as Ryzen master will only report your settings you input not actual
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Yeah, i noticed that. Made no difference to my ram issues unfortunately.
 
Th0nt said:
When you get the crashes what information is displayed to you?

Can you set everything to default, even underclock the memory to get a stable windows install? Is it on m.2, regular sata?
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When it crashes the system just freezes and the reboots (no Windows error is displayed, no error code on my motherboard, etc.) After reboot if I check the log it shows the "critical" error as being a kernel power failure. Power supply is fine though (and doesn't make sense as the system runs fine and seems fine installing any running different programs...it just won't allow me to install any drivers).

I don't have anything overclocked and xmp is off. I have tried with older, slow corsair ram as well (2 x 8gb 2666mhz). I have a new nvme that I tried with a fresh Windows install, but also tried with a freshly formatted sata WD sata as well just in case it was an issue with the nvme...suffice to say I have had my fill of taking apart/reassembling a computer for a long time and it still isn't working. I really can't see anything except the cpu or motherboard being the issue at this point but don't know how to tell for sure which it is.

Thanks for the suggestions though!
 
Sargatanas2511 said:
Got a 3900X on the way, I know it'll work with My Crosshair VI Hero but I don't know what kind of clocks to expect.
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At worst stock I would imagine which for that chip is quite good. As it has faster boosting cores compared to the lower range CPU’s. You may even get lucky like I did and get a much better chip.

Been doing some more testing on my 3600. It can actually easily do 4500MHz all core, but it needs to much extra voltage vs all core 4400MHz that it is just not worth the extra heat and possible degradation. 4.4GHz all core at 1.275v eats OCCT for breakfast and is super stable. But 4.5GHz wants at least 1.375v to do the same. It actually runs fine at 1.325v to past short stress tests and cinebench, but after 20-30 minutes of OCCT I get 1 error show up, which is 1 too many.

Can’t really complain though, all core 4.4GHz that runs cooler than stock settings and more efficient as power usage is a little less provides a 10% boost over stock. 4.4GHz on Zen 2 is a lot better than my 4.7GHz OC on my Haswell due to the huge IPC difference, so nice upgrade for me :)

Once I get my new kit of RAM I may just key this 4.4GHz all core settings into BIOS and be done with my tweaking :D
 
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