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TNA said:
Yeah, I mean tRC. Sorry, so many names with RAM I got confused. Had to fire up CPU-Z to confirm :o:p

So basically you have exactly what I got, but different RAM. I have spent a lot of time with Corsair support. Will give them one my chance, third time lucky maybe. If not will grab something those maybe. What are they, B-Die?

My tRFC 560 at the moment and my tRC 60 and no issues.
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They Micron E-Die, I take it yours are Hynix?, they are second only to B die and very consistant at getting to 3733/3800mhz from reports from others, Ive not even tried pushing the Primary timings TBH. Amazing value. I know there are some amazing kits in 100£ range now but when I bought these months ago before my build, nothing touched them for value.
 
MegaPinches said:
They Micron E-Die, I take it yours are Hynix?, they are second only to B die and very consistant at getting to 3733/3800mhz from reports from others, Ive not even tried pushing the Primary timings TBH. Amazing value. I know there are some amazing kits in 100£ range now but when I bought these months ago before my build, nothing touched them for value.
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Mine are B-Die, but maybe Thaiphoon is reading it wrong? Either that or once I get a working modules it will shine then.
 
MegaPinches said:
Ah right, you should be flying with them then, I didn't think any of the corsair 3200 cl16 kits were B-die?
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Me either, was surprised that my original pair and the replacement pair both say Samsung B-Die. Lets see what the third pair coming soon will say. I get the feeling they may be b-die and they are the one's which are the rejects that do not clock well. Every B-Die will not be a great clocker, just like every 3600 is not. Lucky for me I got a good 3600, now need the good RAM.
 
A couple of weeks back I asked about an issue I was having with my new system hoping for help narrowing it down to a motherboard or cpu issue. I got a helpful response (from opethdiscipile if I recall correctly) that it was unlikely to be a cpu issue (thanks again!), but after sending the mb in, Gigabyte is now saying they can't find anything wrong with it. So once again I am on here hoping someone with far more knowledge and experience can help me out as I am out of ideas.

The best that I can tell, the issue seems to have something to do with hardware checks. If I attempt to install a driver (chipset, video, lan, etc.) the system will freeze and reboot. Out of curiosity, I also tried "scan for new hardware" from the device manager with the exact same result. I even downloaded the app off Gigabytes site that claims to be able to keep drivers updated for the mb and got the same result when running it. The odd part is I have not however encountered any issue with installing or running any programs (Windows, hwinfo, etc. all install normally just certain things such as videos obviously run really rough due to the lack of drivers.) This lead me to think it may have something to do with one of those amazing chips on the motherboard not working correctly (yeah, I'm probably one of the least knowledgeable people on this site.....)

So now I am hoping someone on here knows what would control that? Does the cpu have any specific involvement that would prevent only drivers from installing? Any ideas on what I could be missing?

System is: Gigabyte x570 Master, 3700x, Evga 850w power supply, clean install of Windows 10 (updated)

Also have played with following parts with no change in problem: Gskill neo ram 2x16gb(switched with some known working corsair 2x8gb), samsung nvme (switched with a WD 2tb mechanical), Sapphire 5700xt Nitro (switched with an old Evga), Abba bios as well as previous version. Also cleared cmos and even tried different mouse and keyboards as I was frustrated and didn't want to miss anything regardless of how ridiculous.
 
I really got carried away with the length of my previous post (sorry). I am just hoping someone on here knows if an issue installing drivers (and only drivers...programs install and run without issue) could be caused by a defective cpu as I am out of ideas as to how to fix my system.
 
Toquey said:
I really got carried away with the length of my previous post (sorry). I am just hoping someone on here knows if an issue installing drivers (and only drivers...programs install and run without issue) could be caused by a defective cpu as I am out of ideas as to how to fix my system.
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have u tried a new Download of windows installer ? U have checked most of the hardware and swooping out etc but have u tried a different fresh windows 10 iso download ?
 
What is the story with the ocuk price of already in stock 3900x jumping up and down? From 560 to 599 back down and back up again. :confused:
 
TrM said:
have u tried a new Download of windows installer ? U have checked most of the hardware and swooping out etc but have u tried a different fresh windows 10 iso download ?
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Yes, I did. Thanks for the suggestion though.

I can't think of anything else it could be but either the motherboard (Gigabyte says it's not though) or the cpu (which I don't know could cause this).
 
TNA said:
Me either, was surprised that my original pair and the replacement pair both say Samsung B-Die. Lets see what the third pair coming soon will say. I get the feeling they may be b-die and they are the one's which are the rejects that do not clock well. Every B-Die will not be a great clocker, just like every 3600 is not. Lucky for me I got a good 3600, now need the good RAM.
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Just thinking, regarding your 98.8 BCLK, have you tried setting cpu clock in bios from auto to 100mhz? its under the first tab on advanced bios.
 
Toquey said:
I really got carried away with the length of my previous post (sorry). I am just hoping someone on here knows if an issue installing drivers (and only drivers...programs install and run without issue) could be caused by a defective cpu as I am out of ideas as to how to fix my system.
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Where are you downloading the Chipset Driver? It should come directly from AMD website.

Here . . .

https://www.amd.com/en/support/chipsets/amd-socket-am4/x570

The Chipset Driver is all I installed on all three of my Ryzen rigs.

If the video driver is for the 5700XT, here it is.

https://www.amd.com/en/support/chipsets/amd-socket-am4/x570

The rest i just let Windows to take care unless they are not working at all.
 
Orange Nexus said:
Where are you downloading the Chipset Driver? It should come directly from AMD website.

Here . . .

https://www.amd.com/en/support/chipsets/amd-socket-am4/x570

The Chipset Driver is all I installed on all three of my Ryzen rigs.

If the video driver is for the 5700XT, here it is.

https://www.amd.com/en/support/chipsets/amd-socket-am4/x570

The rest i just let Windows to take care unless they are not working at all.
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Another good suggestion, but I originally did download chipset + gpu directly from AMD (they download without issue and give no issue until trying to actually install). I tried the chipset from Gigabyte's site as well just to be thorough. The reason I tried other drivers as well is I was trying to see if it was just the two giving issue, or drivers in general...and it seems to be the latter.
 
MegaPinches said:
Just thinking, regarding your 98.8 BCLK, have you tried setting cpu clock in bios from auto to 100mhz? its under the first tab on advanced bios.
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I did this before and it made no difference. Not done it since disabling spread spectrum however. Will give it a go, but I doubt it would work.
 
TNA said:
I did this before and it made no difference. Not done it since disabling spread spectrum however. Will give it a go, but I doubt it would work.
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Hope not had you chasing your tail but all my readings are using aida64 (memory bench) where I had 98.8 fsb and 1796 north bridge then they went 100/1800 after turning off spread spectrum. CPUz still will say 98.8 for clock! but any how turning it off is good for me, stopped erratic clocks in bios and everything else I mentioned.
 
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MegaPinches said:
Hope not had you chasing your tail but all my readings are using aida64 (memory bench) where I had 98.8 fsb and 1796 north bridge then they went 100/1800 after turning off spread spectrum. CPUz still will say 98.8 for clock! but any how turning it off is good for me, stopped erratic clocks in bios and everything else I mentioned.
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I only checked on CPU-Z and as I said it did go from 99.80 to 99.98. Will check in bios and aida64 when I can and see.

Have you played about with anything else in the bios?

Also any luck overclocking?
 
AMD Ryzen 9 3900 Review: a Taste of Eco Mode
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-ryzen-9-3900-review-eco-mode

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Toquey said:
Another good suggestion, but I originally did download chipset + gpu directly from AMD (they download without issue and give no issue until trying to actually install). I tried the chipset from Gigabyte's site as well just to be thorough. The reason I tried other drivers as well is I was trying to see if it was just the two giving issue, or drivers in general...and it seems to be the latter.
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Just to make sure. You are not using the RGB fusion and APP center stuff from Giga, right?
 
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