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AMD Zen 2 (Ryzen 3000) - *** NO COMPETITOR HINTING ***

~>Dg<~ said:
what you mean what happened to it ? i edit on it. :confused:
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You being so gaming focused i'm just wondering because Skylake-X are not good gaming CPU's, even at 400Mhz higher clocks they struggle to keep up with Ryzen.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhbbOy1PkVY
 
Potatowithearsontheside said:
You haven't offered an opinion, just spouted nonsense.
You asked questions which when turned back to yourself you simply avoided answering.
How does one match a CB score on similar core count if not by either increasing clocks or increasing IPC?
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i have i have shown that cinebench scores count for notihng in gaming. 2700x is slower than a i5 8400 in most games. proven and benchmarked. yet a 2700x is better in cinebench. id say that pretty much is a solid opinion with proof showing cinebench isnt everything.
 
Scougar said:
CAS 14 memory at 1746Mhz (3492) if I'm seeing the screenshot right. That would account for some of the gain. Single core perf was pretty darn good as well.
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No mention of DDR frequency yet for Zen2 I can only assume that it will be better than Zen+.

The other thing I noticed is if Zen+ scores 2074 @ 4.4 then that means that the Zen2 demo was either clocked lower or has no IPC gain at all. The reddit page posted a little while back said that the demo was running at 4.5ghz... Something doesn’t add up.
 
Anyone know how to ignore someone permenately? I know how to find the ignore button but if I don’t log in and just browse quickly from my phone, I have to sift through post after post of nonsense. Its an inconvenience. :(
 
Doobedoo said:
Anyone know how to ignore someone permenately? I know how to find the ignore button but if I don’t log in and just browse quickly from my phone, I have to sift through post after post of nonsense. Its an inconvenience. :(
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Click on the name above the avatar, on the right there is a link called "Ignore"
 
Doobedoo said:
Anyone know how to ignore someone permenately? I know how to find the ignore button but if I don’t log in and just browse quickly from my phone, I have to sift through post after post of nonsense. Its an inconvenience. :(
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It is not possible. Works only once you are logging in.
 
Doobedoo said:
No mention of DDR frequency yet for Zen2 I can only assume that it will be better than Zen+.

The other thing I noticed is if Zen+ scores 2074 @ 4.4 then that means that the Zen2 demo was either clocked lower or has no IPC gain at all. The reddit page posted a little while back said that the demo was running at 4.5ghz... Something doesn’t add up.
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It would have been clocked much Lower. Back in the day when i used to bench a lot, Intel used me for testing the X58 platform and over a period of time i was sent an ES X975 and then latter an ES X990. On release the 975 had a base clock of 3.33Ghz, the ES i was sent had a base clock of 2.8Ghz 5 months before going retail. The 990 on release had a base clock of 3.46Ghz, the ES i was sent had a base clock of 3.1Ghz 3 months before going retail. ES's are not designed with max clocks in mind, they are used for proof of concept and De-bugging.

That said, of course i clocked the nuts off of both under phase......................my results from that came very close to the final clocks i got from retail chips at launch.
 
awaybreaktoday said:
The biggest problem for intel is that a 16 core ryzen will be beating some of their HEDT range
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^^this is what i agree with most.

From my perspective as a gamer with a 9900k 5.2ghz, i have a feeling this will be a side grade. If games turn out similar to the cinebench in games, i wont be buying. 1440p and 4k i dont even see much gain over lower tier chips. Its ahead of the curve for the demands of gaming aswell as a number of other intel chips. 2700 amds are abead of the curve too.
If these chips turn out like the hype, it excites me to what my next upgrade will be. The cpu market just got exciting again. I just hope games develop as quick as the cpu market is :)
16+ core that clocks the same as an 8, will be crushing at the HEDT market.
 
Come summer, I'll be retiring my i7 4970k, and maybe looking at the Ryzen 9 3850x and AM5.

I'll probably pass on the i7 to my daughters mum, who's still using my old QuadCore 6600.
 
kitfit1 said:
It would have been clocked much Lower. Back in the day when i used to bench a lot, Intel used me for testing the X58 platform and over a period of time i was sent an ES X975 and then latter an ES X990. On release the 975 had a base clock of 3.33Ghz, the ES i was sent had a base clock of 2.8Ghz 5 months before going retail. The 990 on release had a base clock of 3.46Ghz, the ES i was sent had a base clock of 3.1Ghz 3 months before going retail. ES's are not designed with max clocks in mind, they are used for proof of concept and De-bugging.

That said, of course i clocked the nuts off of both under phase......................my results from that came very close to the final clocks i got from retail chips at launch.
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So what do you think it was clocked at? Logically thinking it has to be something like 4.0-4.2.
 
Doobedoo said:
So what do you think it was clocked at? Logically thinking it has to be something like 4.0-4.2.
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Six months out from going retail an "internal ES" could well be within that window yes. ES's in the wild at the moment would be few and far between and under punishment of death :D for ANY NDA infringement lol. Even this far out from retail and further though, AMD have a very good idea of the window for clock speeds.
Intel for instance, knew full well that the X990 ES they sent me was well capable of hitting over 5Ghz on phase because the e-mail exchange we had was only based around that figure.
 
kitfit1 said:
Six months out from going retail an "internal ES" could well be within that window yes. ES's in the wild at the moment would be few and far between and under punishment of death :D for ANY NDA infringement lol. Even this far out from retail and further though, AMD have a very good idea of the window for clock speeds.
Intel for instance, knew full well that the X990 ES they sent me was well capable of hitting over 5Ghz on phase because the e-mail exchange we had was only based around that figure.
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So it’s defiantly not unreasonably to assume that retail cards will outperform what we saw at CES and probably on par (at least in cinebench) with a 5+ghz 9900k.
 
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