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AMD Zen 2 (Ryzen 3000) - *** NO COMPETITOR HINTING ***
- Thread starter Jamin280672
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Why? 1st and 2nd gens were the same price, why would 3rd gen be different?
Only thing that I can see is Intel are artifically raising the prices, which enables Amd to raise theirs too. I expect a price rise this time around by Amd, with a higher profit margin at mid-high end.
I thought that intel should reduce the prices of their aging technology, already. Is this some inflation, speculative pricing or...?
to make more profit to please shareholders, business is business.
You never heard of inflation?
Soldato
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also cant effect sales of thread ripper too . personally think they need to match slightly be higher then intels 9900k 8 core with their own 16 cores . makes sense and Profit !
id be happy to pay same price as a 9900k for double the cores , or slightly above 2700x prices for a chips with same amount of cores but can hit 4.8-5ghz across them all
first two gens they gained market share and some profit , but if they keep at that pace intel will catch up! need to start extracting larger profit margins to keep ahead of intel - whom in an odd twist of fate seem to have a cracking GPU multicore design... been a funny time for Hardware , but well needed !
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Soldato
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Thats the sort of price i'm looking for. I just want a nice 12 core machine.
I think in reality AMD will put the price up a little, and they deserve to.
6C/12T - £130
8C/16T - £220
12C/24T - £350
16T/32T - £499
I've said many times I expect about £20 or so on top of the existing 3, 5, 7 tier prices with the new 9 tier going up to about £450, aligning yet undercutting the i9s. That's the be expected.
But to do any more than that will backfire; if people are prepared to pay Intel prices then they'll buy Intel unless Zen 2's performance is so substantially better than Intel even the fanbois and the uninformed can't deny it. Shareholders will be much happier with high volume, low margin sales to regain market and mind share because that is the sort of thing which evaluates the strength and worth of a company and pushes shares up.
As Nvidia and Intel are now finding out.
And this is a reasonable price breakdown. The bump is not unjustified and is logical, and perhaps most importantly doesn't utterly take the mickey.
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If the R9 3850x beats the i9 9900k in gaming performance (say by 10% or more) but with double the core/thread count, I'd probably pay up to £600 for it. I don't think that would be an unreasonable price at all.
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The 6 core Ryzen 3 has to compete with the i3 so will be priced accordingly. The 8 core Ryzen 5 is completing against i5. The 12 core Ryzen 7 is completing against i7.
The prices you suggest will put the AMD processors well above the price of their Intel counterparts.
The top tier i3 (8350K) has 4 cores 4 threads and cost £170, the i5 9600K has 6 cores 6 threads and costs £260.
Irregardless of naming schemes in performance terms the i3 is out on its own and pointless, the Ryzen R3 3400X has 6 cores 12 threads and competes with the 9600K at half the price, that's what people will be looking at, the Ryzen R5 3600X will compete with the 9900K, again at half the price.