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hopefully the memory lottery with the new amd cpus isnt like ryzen. just need stable plug in works. thats a big deal to many people.
 
4K8KW10 said:
AMD Ryzen 3000 "Zen 2" a Memory OC Beast, DDR4-5000 Possible

Leak : AMD Showcasing 16 Core & 12 Core Ryzen 3000 Series CPUs to OEMs


https://wccftech.com/leak-amd-showcasing-16-core-12-core-ryzen-3000-series-cpus-to-oems/
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That's a little strange, other than the $2 differece on the 3600 and the TBA on the 3850X that's the same as AdoredTV's leak.

CES has been and gone BTW :)

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Ok so that AMD memory guy seems confident...

There chips are apparently with Board Vendors now for validation.

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I'll be very pleased if the 3700X is anywhere close to the $329 mark. I fancy a high end motherboard this time so any extra money I can throw that way will help.

Where is 5000MHz coming from though? Current DDR4 seems a lot lower than that even allowing for overclocking. Are they aiming more at the sub zero people with that Bios option?
 
Zen+ was touted "upto 4000Mhz Mem" while that is possible on good B-Die with a lot of work realistically real use case limit is about upto 3400Mhz, which is a whole lot higher than Zen.

I think 5000Mhz is the same as Zen+ 4000Mhz, doable but no, not really..... still if that means they can push 4000Mhz+ real world that's great, it will keep the Intel shills quiet.

Another one https://www.techpowerup.com/255405/amd-ryzen-3000-zen-2-a-memory-oc-beast-ddr4-5000-possible

I maybe getting ahead of myself but i like to think AMD listened to the Memory criticisms and just said to themselves "you know what #### it! lets build an IMC no one can complain about"

I also like to think the clock speeds, IPC, core counts and pricing is true, that AMD have built a CPU architecture that will simply blow everyones socks off, which with these leaks being true it would.

AMD's mindshare and respect would hit the stratosphere.
 
4K8KW10 said:
AMD Ryzen 3000 "Zen 2" a Memory OC Beast, DDR4-5000 Possible
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Problem with that is they've added a 1/2 divider so it's possible you could end up with lower performance as IF would only be running at 1250Mhz instead of the 1500Mhz+ from using 1/1 on 3000Mhz+ RAM, added to that would be the extra latency involved when data crosses a clock domain.

That's really going to need some testing to find out if super-fast, and super expensive, RAM is worth the investment.
 
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Troezar said:
All looking very promising indeed. What to do about memory now. Jump on some B die and take a chance or wait and see...
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I will wait for the reviews and more information about the memory frequencies achievements after the launch. If you have DDR4-3200, better return it now.

Murphy said:
Problem with that is they've added a 1/2 divider so it's possible you could end up with lower performance as IF would only be running at 1250Mhz instead of the 1500Mhz+ from using 1/1 on 3000Mhz+ RAM, added to that would be the extra latency involved when data crosses a clock domain.

That's really going to need some testing to find out if super-fast, and super expensive, RAM is worth the investment.
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You would still need the fastest possible memory modules.
 
Wow! that 3700X looks like the perfect CPU for the next 2-3yrs from a price/performance perspective. 12c/24t with a 5Ghz boost (which should, I would have thought, be good for at least a 4.6Ghz all core overclock)

I bet it will sell out everywhere within 5 minutes of going on pre-order...:(

Plenty of F5 keys are going to be getting a damn good thrashing soon :p
 
havenrl said:
Yeah, this is nice, but I fancy switching to the NH-U12 if I get an X variant Ryzen 3000.
Or, I dunno if AIO is better, or custom loops.
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Custom loops is the only water I'd go with again. Had the Corsair H110i, it was louder, similar performing, and cost more than the D15s did. Plus the darn pump went and caused even more issues.
Don't have those extra costs, noise, and points of failure with a trusty air cooler.

Will certainly be worth checking RAM clearance for the new motherboards like @DragonQ mentioned.
 
~>Dg<~ said:
hopefully the memory lottery with the new amd cpus isnt like ryzen. just need stable plug in works. thats a big deal to many people.
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Very true, but so far most B-Die ram usually runs without issues.

This is a fantastic little tool to find them; a little database of known, and added B-Die dimms.

https://benzhaomin.github.io/bdiefinder/

I like to check that, the motherboard compatibility list; and then my fav retailers.

Then again, considering current Ryzen support speed prior to OC'ing is 2933Mhz; I hope the 3000 series ups that again also. Each steps makes it easier, and easier for new, and novice builders to get buy ram and slap in without fiddling in the BIOS, or looking up kits.

Silent_Scone said:
I’m using the wraith cooler, mounting shouldn’t be an issue for most of the popular options
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How are you finding it? I've heard good things about its performance-audibility considering it's a stock cooler.

Makes me wonder if Ryzen 3000 will improve OC'ing; as at the moment XFR kind renders it moot; unless you can get a decent all core clock similar to the XFR peak.
 
N19h7m4r3 said:
Very true, but so far most B-Die ram usually runs without issues.

This is a fantastic little tool to find them; a little database of known, and added B-Die dimms.

https://benzhaomin.github.io/bdiefinder/

I like to check that, the motherboard compatibility list; and then my fav retailers.

Then again, considering current Ryzen support speed prior to OC'ing is 2933Mhz; I hope the 3000 series ups that again also. Each steps makes it easier, and easier for new, and novice builders to get buy ram and slap in without fiddling in the BIOS, or looking up kits.



How are you finding it? I've heard good things about its performance-audibility considering it's a stock cooler.

Makes me wonder if Ryzen 3000 will improve OC'ing; as at the moment XFR kind renders it moot; unless you can get a decent all core clock similar to the XFR peak.
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Yes I'm working on the basis that I can underclock and tighten the timings depending on how Ryzen 3000 performs.
 
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