Nah, you want to be going back to Q1 2000, and the launch of the Athlon 1000 at a tiny small price of $1299, in the wonderful and terrible Slot A form factor.
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AMD Zen 2 (Ryzen 3000) - *** NO COMPETITOR HINTING ***
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Nah, you want to be going back to Q1 2000, and the launch of the Athlon 1000 at a tiny small price of $1299, in the wonderful and terrible Slot A form factor.
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Will be at least 6Ghz, easy.
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Could be. 3700x is sounding very good so far, i wonder if there will be reviews just before release, or at least on the day? Then we can see where they sit gaming wise.
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12 core was always going to be the sweet spot for high single thread and high multithread performance.
I will be surprised if they do manage to squeak out a high clocked 16 though, that will be some achievement.
I will be surprised if they do manage to squeak out a high clocked 16 though, that will be some achievement.
I doubt it is that much of an achievement, as once you've committed to the configuration they have with the separate I/O die and multiple CPU chiplets then you are simply dealing with an increase of the total package power. It is however unlikely that a high clocking 16c/32 CPU will come in below 135w TDP, but if AMD want a halo product that is unbeatable then pushing the power up is what will be required. It's hardly a deal breaker either, since an 8c/16t Intel CPU is typically 150+ watts at 4.9-5.0GHz.
^ God this.in the wonderful and terrible Slot A form factor.
The pencil trick on the T-Bird L1 bridge seemed such a master-hack at the time - and if you were super l33t you used a conductive pen. But then began the love hate relationship of combining it with the neurotic-****ing-nightmare that was the Abit kT7xx Raid motherboard.
It needed a redbull downed with 2 amphetamines combined with BIOS counseling to even consider booting into a stable environment :/. I never achieved true stability and it didn't end well for the board - i still have half the board in my loft as a souvenir (snapped in half after a late night of futile tweaking - moved onto the Asus board).
But, at least it didn't have RGB - not sure i would have survived it mocking me with lights too...
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I would be very surprised if there wasn't preorders for Ryzen 3000.
I am vehemently against pre-ordering any kind of electronics, particularly if the review embargo isn't until the actual release date. However, recent shortages and potential for insane interest does make it a dilemma. Some will rather take the risk of a pre-order than have to wait a year before prices return to normal (a la Vega). Hopefully supply is plentiful.
I hear you. And totally agree.
However. And this might be mad but I "trust" AMD enough to happily preorder R3000. Not sure why but I think it will be good. Hell I think R2000 is good enough. So I am bound to be happy with R3000. I wouldn't pre-order Intel or Nvidia though.
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said this to anyone thats getting ryzen 3000 - Pre Order !
resellers will sell the first batch of either pre-order or in stock at recommended retail price, then after this, free to increase prices with supply and demand ! Distributors are as see to adjust pricing - but 99% of people of forums wouldn't have that access , and not always super cheap when left at default prices unless buying in BIG bulk orders .
least you can always cancel a pre-order, if you wait, reviews come out good- a lot of first gen ryzen or 4 core i7 owners will jump ship. Then factor in OEMs that buy HUGE amounts of chips , they see performance and demand and chance for profit, they'll start eating up stock.
then theres the fight with mobile phone makers for 7nm production space , seems AMD already increased purchase amount of 7nm ahead of apple ... hopefully its enough
I wouldn't pre-order, even if it was the only way to get one at all.
I will not pre-order on principle.
Even if I did pre-order a CPU, I would not pre-order a motherboard so it'd sit in a box for a month or so. Pretty pointless for me.
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Principle of what, exactly?
You can cancel at anytime. Genuinely makes no logical sense. Unless the principle is you're not that bothered about obtaining one at launch, then I can understand.
I think the pre-ordering thing depends on who it is with, and if reviews are out before they go live. A great deal more folk will be happy to pre-order if they have some evidence of the performance in their selected application(s), or indeed if it is a unique proposition with no direct alternative e.g. a 16c/32t CPU at a standard desktop price.
Honestly if there is a stock shortage, it will be a surprise if it lasts very long at all. I'd be more worried about the motherboards being available in bulk, look at what happened when AM4 boards were first launched they were almost as rare as hens teeth.
Honestly if there is a stock shortage, it will be a surprise if it lasts very long at all. I'd be more worried about the motherboards being available in bulk, look at what happened when AM4 boards were first launched they were almost as rare as hens teeth.
Yes but payment gets taken immediately, and they're normally in no hurry to refund you once cancelled. Up to 30 days or something is standard.
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Normally instant or within half an hour in my experience, but depends on how you contact them, at a guess.
which retailer do you use that refunds your money instantly? certainly none that i know off, quickest i've experienced is indeed OcUK but even that is a 3-5 business day time frame at best. Amazon, have in the past 'advanced' refunded but again that's been a 2 to 3 day turnaround and isn't the norm (low value item being returned due to not as described so not an actual preorder)
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OCUK is normally within 5 to 10 minutes when I've called them in the past, when using PayPal at least. Not that it matters, you get the money back - so preorders aren't a gamble.