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AMD Zen 2 (Ryzen 3000) - *** NO COMPETITOR HINTING ***

These are gonna be so popular, I wish there was a way that us forum regulars could be guaranteed a board and cpu on release. Got a feeling a lot of us will miss out on the initial batch :(
 
robfosters said:
These are gonna be so popular, I wish there was a way that us forum regulars could be guaranteed a board and cpu on release. Got a feeling a lot of us will miss out on the initial batch :(
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Not from what I hear, sounds like plenty of stock. Maybe if you're in the market for an MSI Godlike there might be low availability but I expect the midrange to be well catered for. Especially as there are 50+ X570 boards to choose from.
 
is there any AMD info/footnote etc. that details the 9900k settings for the game bench slides? I'm going to assume complete stock operation, so, ~4.3GHz all core for 9900k?
 
chrcoluk said:
As one only sees the manual after buying the board.
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Not exactly.


DragonQ said:
Well typically factory settings have to be very conservative for the very worst chips so there's always going to be some headroom on 99% of chips. Also they're never going to be configured for maximum performance out of the box because the TDP has to be taken into account.
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Case in point, the AM4 Athlon APUs all reaching 3.90 GHz overclocks.
 
Journey said:
Only while in the PL2 state, and it hits about 210w.
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Which is does if it can, so unless you're running on a cheap board and / or have crap cooling its going to do that, when AMD ran the Cinebench comparison they had the 9900K on a Noctua DH14 and a high end Z390.
 
as i understand it, despite the fact most high end motherboards ignore the intel spec 'out of the box' the standard 95W TDP spec should be to drop to ~4.3GHz all core boost if they're respecting PL1/PL2. Obviously most of us will max these values anyway, but I was just wondering what the likelihood was that AMD tested assuming MCE so ~4.7GHz all core.

My assumption would be not! and that they'd test the 9900k @5.0 single/4.3 all core with 2666 ram, which would mean the 3900x might be a little more behind than the slides depict after most 9900k owners gain a +400MHz boost straight off the bat...
 
carbide said:
as i understand it, despite the fact most high end motherboards ignore the intel spec 'out of the box' the standard 95W TDP spec should be to drop to ~4.3GHz all core boost if they're respecting PL1/PL2. Obviously most of us will max these values anyway, but I was just wondering what the likelihood was that AMD tested assuming MCE so ~4.7GHz all core.

My assumption would be not! and that they'd test the 9900k @5.0 single/4.3 all core with 2666 ram, which would mean the 3900x might be a little more behind than the slides depict after most 9900k owners gain a +400MHz boost straight off the bat...
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MCE would be 5Ghz all core. Unless there is something inadequate about the cooling / board the 9900K will run at 4.7Ghz all core.
 
Grim5 said:
New 3600 overclocked geekbench stuff up today

Tried to find a comparison - this is 4.4ghz all core 3600 vs 4.9ghz all core 9700k

http://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/compare/11358077?baseline=13629401


and 4.4ghz all core 3600 vs 5ghz all core 9600k

http://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/compare/11803575?baseline=13629401

The common theme here is Intel seems to still retain it's single core lead, slightly. Keen to see some 3900x numbers
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Geekbench 4.3.2 Tryout Geekbench 4.3.4 Tryout
Different versions ?
 
Grim5 said:
New 3600 overclocked geekbench stuff up today

Tried to find a comparison - this is 4.4ghz all core 3600 vs 4.9ghz all core 9700k

http://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/compare/11358077?baseline=13629401


and 4.4ghz all core 3600 vs 5ghz all core 9600k

http://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/compare/11803575?baseline=13629401

The common theme here is Intel seems to still retain it's single core lead, slightly. Keen to see some 3900x numbers
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Benched my 2700X 4.2Ghz All Core and compared with that 3600 you posted above..

http://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/compare/13633228?baseline=13629401

If anyone can find a 4.2Ghz Zen 2 somewhere to compare with mine?

Be nice to see a decent comparison as i have good RAM at 3200Mhz etc etc in my Sig :)

Scrap that, found the search function and a 4.2Ghz 3600..

Doesnt look too good right now unless 2400Mhz memory makes Ryzen **** slow, though its nice to see my memory latency at 66ns/68ns on there :)

Heres the link anyway.. http://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/compare/13633228?baseline=13610117

Cheers :D
 
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I think until we see a rig running 3700 cl17 (not saying this is the "easy, obvious standard for Ryzen 3". It's likely where the performance peaks for good OC comparisons and finding upper limits) we'll not get a good feel for what the Ryzen 3's got. I'll be on a 3700 cl17 setup from day 1 so... I'm assuming a small improvement on pretty much every bench seen so far.
 
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