Im pretty much a noob to all these technical things yous are all talking about and im not understanding it lol
Is a single core better than multi core for gaming ?
Im looking to build a new mini itx pc mainly for gaming and im undecided whether to wait for these ryzens or just go intel. I have a I5 4690k and im looking for a decent upgrade to last me 5+ years
Per-core performance is still the primary metric to be looking for, but if you're wanting to keep a system for half a decade, you will want at least the 6-core option, if not the 8-core. Personally, I would persuade you into the 8-core territory.
The next-generation consoles will be using 8-core Zen 2 processors at around 3.00 GHz, which means that anybody owning such CPUs in their PC should see a tangible benefit to their overall playability since the frequency deficit will be used by the console manufacturers to ensure that all of the cores are properly taken advantage of.
This then causes a domino effect on the desktop/laptop side of things, and that 8-core purchase will be worthwhile.
ahh, ok. Thought I read when the 9900k reviews dropped that MCE only pushed an all core boost of 4.7 on the 9900k. Which I thought made sense seeing as an Auto MCE function would probably push more than 1.30Vcore which would generate more heat than most were prepared for. I'm more confused as to what a 9900KS brings to the table now then, unless it's 8086K quality binning and anothe +£100!
MCE pushes the all-core turbo to match the single-core turbo, which would be 5.00 GHz in this case.
With Intel dropping prices by 15%, I suspect the 9900KS might not cost as much as originally thought, but it's clear that Ryzen will be cheaper. The extra 300 MHz might help Intel keep up, however.
I'd be very surprised if they actually release the 9900KS, and if they do it will be a paper product only. They need to concentrate on getting the 10c/20t 1151 CPU out, with at least 4.6GHz boost speed all core at <250w, and maybe a 5.0GHz boost on 2 cores.
Speaking of which, does anyone remember the i9-9900KFC? Whatever happened to those rumors...?
Any chance of it resurfacing if the i9-9900KS can't get the job done? Rely on eDRAM, on top of the 5.00 GHz all-core frequency?
So you have no intention on actually buying a Zen2 CPU it would seem. So please don't bother posting in here if you literally have nothing to add ,other than rubbish.
That's some dedication!
They have been EOL'ing them for a while, i doubt they have been making any since they started making the IO Dies for Zen 2 at GloFlow.
They also have certain promises to fulfill with the PRO line-up for businesses. They have to be available for at least two years after introduction, and the Zen+ PRO line-up was released only in September.
These were with 2133Mhz Memory - so 3733Mhz gives one hell of a boost!
2700X
Single-Core Score
4410
Multi-Core Score
22546
3800X
Single-Core Score
5406
Multi-Core Score
34059
https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/compare/13607469?baseline=13567135
Looking forward to see the 3900X with 3733Mhz
Interesting to note that the only area where it loses is in memory latency.
Surprised nobody has picked up on that.
looking at the oc3d 9900k review from October last year, they were getting 6457/35687. on the geekbench charts at the mo, it's more like 6200/34000. Is this taking into account a mean of the 97th% of all results, or the security vulnerability updates maybe? or just, different versions?
Possibly between unapplied security mitigations, and variations in the benchmark version. Annoyingly, the article doesn't give any indication to the software versions used whatsoever.
What is clear, is that their 2700X result is 12% faster than
@N19h7m4r3's, which is more than margin of error difference. They used DDR4-3200 for their testing, which should have closed that 2700X gap considerably if the benchmark version was the same.
I just found that Geekbench includes a score of your memory in the combined SC and MC scores.
That makes it really hard to compare CPU's using geekbench as you need to find tests where both cpus have the exact same RAM
And this is why I strongly dislike going by the two figures at the top.