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AMD Zen 2 (Ryzen 3000) - *** NO COMPETITOR HINTING ***

It's too much, the most expensive intel X299 board, the listed Asus ROG RAMPAGE VI EXTREME OMEGA (SOCKET 2066) INTEL X299 EATX MOTHERBOARD costs just 620 quid.
then vote with your wallet and get X470, B450 or a lower end X570.

If there is no market for that price range they will have to rethink their line up next time out.

I may end up with the Gigabyte Extreme due to it being the only option without a chipset fan for X570 but I could go for a X470 Taichi if I can source one with an updated bios, will wait for reviews
 
I think most people that really want X570 for PCIe 4.0 will be just fine with the lowest tier boards (e.g. MSI MPG X570 Gaming Plus at hopefully under £200). Buildzoid reckons their VRMs are good enough for reasonable 16 core overclocks, so what more do you need? I think the pricing is only an issue if you need some specialist features and PCIe 4.0 (remember X470 still exists).
 
Prices from Major UK site
AMD Ryzen 3800X - £379.79 inc VAT
AMD Ryzen 3700X - £315.59 inc VAT
AMD Ryzen 3600 - £189.59 inc VAT

This will be interesting. As I understood it, the 3800x is just a well binned 3700x. Quite why they made a confusing and misleading name system, I don't know. The prices I had been expecting was £100 more for the 3800x, which would have been an easy no for me. If it's this close, I shall have to think about it.

Can anyone explain why the 3800x has a much higher TDP than the 3700x, when it appears to be almost the same chip?
 
...The single core score is rather low which is very interesting- we’ve seen much higher on a 4.3ghz 3600. So either the 3900x isn’t boosting to the clock speed amd claims or the 3900x just isn’t that good at single core loads...

remember the linux bench runs seem to be way better than win 10 x64
 
The average boost clockspeed of the Ryzen 7 3800X should be higher than the Ryzen 7 3700X. Look at the 65W TDP Ryzen 7 1700 against the 95W TDP Ryzen 7 1800X,and the 65W TDP Ryzen 7 2700 against the 105W TDP Ryzen 7 2700X:
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Similar to the non x and x versions of the previous gen, if left at stock the 3800X will be a tad faster in rendering tasks, as an example, cos of a higher base clock.
 
They will still have the straw of single thread latency sensitive stuff like web benchmarks

Am I the only person that thinks the inclusion of such benchmarks in reviews of £400-500 CPUs is pretty stupid? People that want to browse the web or do web development will not be influenced by a processor that can run a JavaScript test the fastest. And those who want to browse the Internet (most people) will never think twice about such results. Who cares?


You use “gotten”. Are you American?

Fun fact; "gotten" is actually British English, but for some reason people decided to not speak properly over the later centuries and it therefore fell out of use in Britain. The US and Canada stick true to the original language.
 
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