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AMD Zen 2 (Ryzen 3000) - *** NO COMPETITOR HINTING ***

Thekwango said:
hold on, are you me - i'm confused and a bit scared right now!
the moment i saw the link that showed my current mobo (x370 gigabyte gaming 5) could handle a 3900x i thought - sod it, i'll just buy that for now and when the motherboard prices drop a bit i'll look to switching that out too. even though i have absolutely zero, nil, nada, zilch need for a 12c/24t cpu! a 3700/3800 or even the 3600 would do me perfectly well for the next few years. but noooo, the 3900x is stalking me, haunting my dreams, telling me it wants me, it needs me. yes, i'm sad :(:p.
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Hahaha, this is me also, getting a better board down the line included, even considered the taichi x470 shortly after.

I don't need any of them really, a 2700x is okay, but okay isn't the same as my friend down the streets 9700k who is getting way more fps in games than me with the same setup bar the cpu....... Help me
 
beany_bot said:
I don't understand how a gamer (plenty on this forum) can order on release day without seeing reviews? We don't know if the 3800x or 3900x is best in gaming? which has lowest latency? which overclocks higher? Is the 3800 faster than the 3900x even (overclocked)?? We just don't know yet. So any "gamers" buying on day 1 I find a bit mental. Just give it 48 hours at least to see the real data,
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Religion doesn’t require proof...it just requires a leap of faith....AMDevotees will walk blindly into the shadows :p
 
nkata said:
I can say in my 26 years of consumer component purchases, RRP 1USD = £1 sterling incl VAT.

Irrespective of exchange rate peregrinations. This is not always absolute but reasons like smaller marketplace, longer or more expensive shipping are forever quoted. So I generally take this to be a fact and plan for it.
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I agree
 
I'm trying to work out if the 3700x is going to be good future wise, mostly games, maybe some office work and/or virtual machines. Will I really need more than 8 cores for the next couple of years maybe even 4 years?
 
Pants said:
In case anyone can't be bothered I've converted the publicly released $ prices to £ plus 20% VAT.

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For the hell of it I've done a VERY CRUDE measure of how many MHz you get for your pound, with a 15% penalty on the Zen+ parts. SC is based on boost speeds and MC on base clock.
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Not surprising given the R3 2200G was the best bang-for-buck last time around. Will be interesting to see what AMD does with Renoir (Zen 2 APUs).
 
Illuminist said:
Hahaha, this is me also, getting a better board down the line included, even considered the taichi x470 shortly after.

I don't need any of them really, a 2700x is okay, but okay isn't the same as my friend down the streets 9700k who is getting way more fps in games than me with the same setup bar the cpu....... Help me
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Let me help. Buy 3900x and be done with it. Knowing you anything but that just isn't going to cut it and will be replaced a few months later. 3900x all the way because 12 core bro!!
 
I was going to get a 3900x for a second rig, but thinking about it now i wonder if this can replace my main 7940x and outperform it in gaming and productivity.
 
Well given 3600 leaked benchmark it does look like intel will still be better gaming oriented cpu so if this is your priority and not price / performance then intel is probably the way to go. We will need to wait for official real reviews of course before being sure but I reckon Intel will stay as the best gaming chip.
 
chroniclard said:
Very likely most modern games will use as many cores as available. If they are utilising 4 or 8 they wont just stop at that, they will use all they can.
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Thats what people said when new consoles came out with 8 cores in them like 7 eyars ago :P
 
willhub said:
I'm trying to work out if the 3700x is going to be good future wise, mostly games, maybe some office work and/or virtual machines. Will I really need more than 8 cores for the next couple of years maybe even 4 years?
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No, 8 cores will be fine for years and years for gaming.

Calculate the whole-life cost of buying the low-medium-high options with an assumption about how long each will last you and you quickly see that it's almost always better to get the cheapest that will fulfill your requirements for 2 years than to try and future proof for 5.

In five years there might be kit 100% better than the $750 3950X, for $350.

I'm going to do an NPV analysis cause I'm sad.
 
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