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humbug said:
Yeah it's probably not a good idea to use what was just posted to gleefully troll who you might term "The AMD Brigade" it's far too early for that much confidence. it could easily backfire in a couple of days.
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This is 100% what AMD BRIGADE always says when benchmarks look week just to be confirmed few days later. Like Always :D

I look at them and its 100% what I expected to see vs 2700x with clocks and ipc gain from Zen+
 
@gupsterg Do the Honours and post like You did at OCN :)

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Mouse in bios still not working ?? Not like i use mouse in bios :P
 
Lol using PBO will invalidate your warranty

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Nghtmare said:
I personally really like how the Taichi looks, it just seems more sophisticated and better build. It must be because the Gaming X has a lot of white parts.
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Nghtmare said:
For me is the opposite, I love how it looks. I guess is the fact that the majority of the board is matte black.
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Are you like me in that you associate white electronics with cheapness (perhaps more specifically polycarbonate products)?

I love the way matte black looks, and I can't stand glossy/piano black anything.

I've just checked out the X570 Taichi, and I think it looks pretty swish, to be honest.


Pannalicour said:
One of the amd slide showed that a 3900x should score around 7000 on cinbenche r20. I think it is @ stock. My questions are:

1) At what speed do you guys think is stock for the 3900x

2) and if you can overclock the 3900x to 4.5 or 4.6 ghz all core what score do you guys think can be achieved on cinebench r20 multi and single test?
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1) 3.80–4.60 GHz. Likely 4.40 GHz all-core for most people, with a 4.80 GHz Overdrive for six loaded cores.

2) Within the margin of error of a stock result.


Journey said:
Let us not forget AMD told certain board makers to disable PCI-E 4.0 support in the X470/B450 BIOS after it was already added, as they didn't want to cause confusion, if some boards had it and other didn't. :)
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I'm not sure if it's necessarily about the potential to cause confusion, as marketing is all about confusing the consumer into making a purchase they don't necessarily need. I would wager it's more to do with making a selling point for a new board.


Zeed said:
@DylRicho power does not matter. Devs sill had to code games to use 8 cores. If they had 32 cores running at 500mhz in them consoles would need to code for 32. Problem is PORTS ARE ****... Just look what sort of cpu power some of those ported games need compared to calculator cpus ion consoles. You think that will change ?? For WORSE if anything!!!
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They didn't get access to all eight of those cores. The Xbox offered only six cores for the longest time before Microsoft released an update to 'unlock' the seventh core for developers. The PlayStation on the other hand has always allowed seven cores for game developers.

Ports are created to target the configurations with the most market share. Since those eight cores together are only equal to something low-end like a Pentium G4560, and developers likely know from their internal statistics and marketplace data that quad-core chips still make up the majority of the market share, they didn't see it worthwhile to go beyond.

Intel's intentional crippling and gouging of core counts has also screwed up the adoption for developers to make use of anything that until now has seemed 'high-end.' Ryzen getting 6-core processors into more and more hands has helped the adoption. If we go by the Steam survey, the "greater than 4 cores" category has grown by 186% in 10 months.


Gee said:
I didnt make the list, someone on Reddit did - but you're welcome!

There is an updated list though here with a few fixes/additions: https://i.redd.it/dzbx9fdkxv731.png
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Whoops. I did actually mean to quote your post with the up-to-date table, but I've been going through this thread at a slower pace over the past few days, which is why I've fallen considerably behind. I started reading on my phone and got to your later post, but then didn't start making a response until I got home on my computer. :p


Zeed said:
Stock but not all core.... 2700x os 4.3 STOCK and cant do 4.3 all core FYI
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It all depends on the system and environment. It can do 4.30 GHz on all cores, but you need a perfect scenario for it. It all ties in to AMD retiring all-core versus two-core turbo designations. Precision Boost 2.0 has no frequency table so the maximum is possible. But possible doesn't mean guaranteed.

I've seen 4.25 GHz on many occasions with a Corsair Hydro cooler. A 50 MHz deficit is practically a margin of error variance. Not worth considering.
 
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Jacky60 said:
TBH I would like them to test 4K with 2080TI SLI all ULTRA rather than artificially low res/details. I prefer real World testing to arbitrary scenarios but either way
this doesn't look good.
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8 Pack said:
^^^ These results are quite a way out from current... Agesa code old....

In current batches not many Intel can hit all core 5ghz actually...

Obviously they are binning for the new SKU and I expect a lot of 5.1-5.2ghz chips within this sku...

All Intel can do 4.9ghz all cores.
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Intel are taking the top 10-15% of their chips and selling them at a premium aka new SKU. This means the remainder, after binning the top chips, of the 9900Ks (8700Ks that clocked well became 8086s) and 8700ks will struggle
to reach the same clock speeds of the earlier CPUs. I'd hope the process would have improved so that yield meant more 5Ghz chips but I have my doubts.
 
@DylRicho mate I'w spend around 700 hours working with 2700x binned at silicone lottery testing timings volts all microcode versions OC ect on 1080 nova extreme radiator... Zen can do 4300 but only stable for gaming and CB15.
I got cb15 pass on 4350 all core.... and 4450 single core @1.6 volt.

4.35 all core:
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Stable ?? only for light benchmarks and some gaming.
 
Kashinoda said:
Fangirl? I'm buying a bloody Ryzen 3 chip and have been waiting for this launch for ages.

It's ridiculous on here, I say the 9900k may be faster in some workloads and apparently I'm an Intel fan girl? It's like discussing politics, all too black and white.

It is fussy with memory, there's a documented sweet spot. That's not something I've made up.

I said you need to spend more on a motherboard to make the most out of the chip. Again that's utterly true, even 8pack said as much on this thread recently.

That's like the third time I've been jumped on here for apparently being an Intel fan despite posting so many positive things about AMD and their new series.

It's not the second coming of jesus ******* christ, its not perfect. Its a great chip and massively disruptive but Intel still has some benefits.
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Just come clean and admit you're a Fangirl;) And possibly a racist from the political black white thing:D;)
 
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