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AMD Zen 2 (Ryzen 3000) - *** NO COMPETITOR HINTING ***

Discussion in 'CPUs' started by Jamin280672, Jul 20, 2018.

  1. SiDeards73

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    Lots of things seem to be broken it seems, like the windows scheduler could still not be correct as pointed out by 3900x testing when its jumping across CCX's etc, could be a number of things with the BIOS, chipset drivers etc as well, its a proper mess and your right AMD had enough time to get this stuff sorted for a polished launch, but its AMD and we all know how they like to sabotage their own launches lol
     
  2. Troezar

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    Just had an email, my "cheap" X570 Taichi is "awaiting picking". So far so good, looks like they may have had some sort of deal with Asrock.
     
  3. Kashinoda

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    At this point you are though, unless you're someone who gets an upgrade every iteration.

    My 4790k is 5 years old, hoping my 3700X will last as long :)
     
  4. Troezar

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    At least it doesn't have to be turned off for security reasons ;):p
     
  5. Andromeda1983

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    Ouch
     
  6. beany_bot

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    Any news on the 3800x?
     
  7. bro306

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    Going for a 3900x today just hope they have some in stock somewhere in the uk.
     
  8. Kashinoda

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    At this point I'm sure it doesn't exist.
     
  9. triss

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    I've decided to wait and see if this turns into a real issue or not. While 3000 series are a great jump on earlier ryzens and are good value for money mostly the boost issue seems off.
     
  10. beany_bot

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    Still can't decide between 3700 3800 and 3900.
     
  11. beany_bot

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    Well it does, you can buy it all over the place. But we've not seen it in reviews
     
  12. DragonQ

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    Has any reviewer done undervolting testing yet?
     
  13. Robert896r1

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    That should more or less settle it. These chips don’t have headroom. I’m sure bios and game engine optimizations will help overall performance but there won’t be some secret sauce to big OC gains on core speed.

    I’d still recommend a 3900x to someone over a 9900k because I do think it’ll come into its own in a couple of years as next gen consoles arrive.

    Until then the 9900k will not just be faster but consistent from game to game. The consistency is an area where AMD need to improve on for sure.
     
  14. Potatowithearsontheside

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    It does exist, but reviewers were only sent 3700X and 3900X.
     
  15. Robert896r1

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    Yeah bearded hardware was doing a livestream yesterday. The bits I caught were that voltage scaling on the chip was really bad but undervolting did not boost anything. As you’d expect letting bios control voltage wasn’t a great idea so like with most things you can tune manually but he was needing something like 1.45 to get 4400 all core on a 3700x.

    The stream should be a video on YouTube you can catch.

    He will be doing mem overlocking tonight on his livestream.
     
  16. Andromeda1983

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    From what is seen, manually OC'ing these chips doesn't seem to be producing decent results vs just allowing PB2 to do its business
     
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  17. Potatowithearsontheside

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    You're misinterpreting that image.
    Precision Boost 2 is not Precision Boost Overdrive.
    Precision Boost 2 defines normal operating behaviour within warranty, i.e. within the set limits for power and current.
    Precision Boost Overdrive overrides the limits completely, with new limits set based upon the motherboard capabilities.
    That we are only seeing results that fall within PB2 behaviour is a clear indicator that PBO is not operating properly.
     
  18. Harbz

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    I went for 3700. I can plug it straight into my x370 board and as it's 65W it should stay quiet like my old 1600.
     
  19. LumpyVR

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    Well I know there’s been some negative comments regarding the gaming performance but in reality it’s next nothing as far as I can see. Coming from my 1600 to any 3000 CPU looks like it’s going to be a cracking upgrade so thumbs up from me.

    Does feel like it might be worth hanging on a few weeks to let the dust settle and any potential BIOS/chipset driver oddities get resolved though. I’m in no rush my 1600 is still ticking along nicely!
     
  20. Andromeda1983

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    Yeah that's what I am planning to do however I won't cancel my 3700X pre-order