I fully expect a product launch. I expect to be able to give Lisa dollars and CES and get a CPU in return. Dats how it works no?
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For me these rumours feel too good to be true, that doesn't mean they aren't true, but I don't think getting super hyped over them is a good idea either.
As for ces I think we'll likely get a demo and a road map saying we'll see more in a couple months. Again getting hyped seems like it will just lead to disappointment.
At this point it seems like some people are ready to call the whole thing a failure if we don't suddenly have 16 core 5ghz chips on sale on Wednesday. But even if all the rumours are way off and few is just road maps. And ryzen 3000 series comes out at the start of summer and tops out with a 10 core at 4.6ghz boost... sure it's not going to explode the market all over again and drive Intel into the dirt. But that would still be a damn fine cpu and continue to drive competition.
In short people need to temper their expectations, just for their own sake.
As for ces I think we'll likely get a demo and a road map saying we'll see more in a couple months. Again getting hyped seems like it will just lead to disappointment.
At this point it seems like some people are ready to call the whole thing a failure if we don't suddenly have 16 core 5ghz chips on sale on Wednesday. But even if all the rumours are way off and few is just road maps. And ryzen 3000 series comes out at the start of summer and tops out with a 10 core at 4.6ghz boost... sure it's not going to explode the market all over again and drive Intel into the dirt. But that would still be a damn fine cpu and continue to drive competition.
In short people need to temper their expectations, just for their own sake.
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If it's usable greatl.
If the highest usage other than gpu's comes from nvme drives & as an example a boot drive states a 3300+ read speed but it tops out at roughly 2500, & a second nvme drive that's meant to hit 1800+ read speeds tops out at 1300, Why? Even with 8 lanes for the gpu there's some to spare.
Because specs (clock speeds, boosts, TDP) are not normally settled on until much closer to launch, as in maybe a month, a week, or even days before being shipped to retailers.
That's a very short lead time on packaging and printing!
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The logistical issues this would cause.
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Because it's absolutely incorrect.
It's amazing how many people in here know the hard facts of the unknown 
The leaks still feel a little too good to be true, but I'm still quietly hopeful that they are true. To be honest even if they're not true, it's still going to be an improvement over Zen+ and a worthy upgrade for me.
The leaks still feel a little too good to be true, but I'm still quietly hopeful that they are true. To be honest even if they're not true, it's still going to be an improvement over Zen+ and a worthy upgrade for me.
True, but it's not like that's never happened when it comes to hitting a shipping date, it's not ideal to be printing specs on boxes and updating chips with only days to go before retail availability but it's happened in the past.
It's one of the reasons we get paper launchs.
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Why?
I don't feel anything about them being too good. Just a normal consequence of the move to a full-node die shrink, coupled with a reworked architecture.
I know you are used to see AMD lagging and offering subpar performance but in this case you are just wrong.
As I said, I don't think it means they aren't true, but 8 more cores and 800ghz+ clock speed boost within a similar size package and similar power requirement is a heck of a jump. Not saying it's impossible, just that it's pretty damn amazing if true.
I'm not saying it's not possible or anything like that, I really do hope its a reality. Always been at the back of my mind that it is a huge improvement though. Hopefully in a few days we'll see. I really do hope AMD pull it off.
Just to clarify that from 4.35GHz up to 5GHz are only 0.65GHz. The move to the 14nm+ process (labeled as 12nm) gave 0.35GHz.
Fair
No matter how good the new chips are, they still won’t be able to run macOS VMs. So there is one reasoon. Granted it might be a fringe case, but it is important to me. For this to work Apple devs would need to add support for AMD architecture to macOS, which in very unlikely to happen.
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Someone has to print the stickers
And put the clock speeds on the chips
It'll happen when market share increases. Though Apple is losing it's grip on it's market anyway. Apple are a fringe case in nearly every aspect anyway. Seeing as they already use Vega for their high end stuff it's not that much of a leap to get AMD support for their VM's. Though an Apple VM is a very niche area to be fair.
If there's a push to require the fastest CPU's and they are AMD, just like when Apple took on Intel CPU's they'll do the same with AMD. I know that for most of the use cases I encounter the new AMD's if they equal the rumours they will be the go to for all my clients.