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i_am_jon · 9 Jul 2019 at 09:10

DPD say my 3900x and Aorus Ultra isn't due until 12ish :mad:

Not working today. Case is stripped with PSU installed waiting for motherboard, even checked the standoffs are in right place. Windows 10 & BIOS USB sticks ready to go.

Orange Nexus · 9 Jul 2019 at 09:11

flea.rider said:
just cancelled my order .. till I find out the ups and downs of this bios rom thing on the x370 ..
may have to go full x570 .. hmmmm

What's the size of motherboard's ROM? That will determine if it can store all the bells and whistles. I know my B350F Strix can't.

beany_bot · 9 Jul 2019 at 09:12

10 pages to 1000 lol

chroniclard · 9 Jul 2019 at 09:13

beany_bot said:
10 pages to 1000 lol

pff, get proper page sizes, 495 here.

andy_mk3 · 9 Jul 2019 at 09:15

i_am_jon said:
DPD say my 3900x and Aorus Ultra isn't due until 12ish

Not working today. Case is stripped with PSU installed waiting for motherboard, even checked the standoffs are in right place. Windows 10 & BIOS USB sticks ready to go.

Haha I'm in the same boat. Been building my new rig bit by bit over the past few months. W10 USB armed ready to go. Dpd is coming 11-12 but I'm not home until 6. Going to be a long afternoon at work

Orange Nexus · 9 Jul 2019 at 09:16

Silent_Scone said:
My fairly early stepping doing rounds at 4K on the Strix. Plug and Play.

So it is fine to go over 3733 MHz?

emodan · 9 Jul 2019 at 09:16

i_am_jon said:
DPD say my 3900x and Aorus Ultra isn't due until 12ish

Not working today. Case is stripped with PSU installed waiting for motherboard, even checked the standoffs are in right place. Windows 10 & BIOS USB sticks ready to go.

Least they are arriving before 12. I got the message yesterday my new motherboard was due at 1930. At my work address so had to call DPD to rearrange as the building will be closed. DPD then returned it to OC so now I have a CPU on the way today with no motherboard in sight.

beany_bot · 9 Jul 2019 at 09:16

chroniclard said:
pff, get proper page sizes, 495 here.

default dear boy. default.

opethdisciple · 9 Jul 2019 at 09:18

As of the last two chipset drivers there is no more Ryzen Balanced plan included.

hudson86 · 9 Jul 2019 at 09:18

chroniclard said:
pff, get proper page sizes, 495 here

Thanks ,didn't realize you could do that !

Anyways, pff, get proper page sizes, 199 here

SiDeards73 · 9 Jul 2019 at 09:19

DragonQ said:
Yeah looks like others have come to the same conclusion. What the videos do seem to show though is the R7 3700X running at 4.2-4.3 GHz during gaming, which indicates an all-core overclock is a complete waste of time even with these 65 W chips.

Everything i have read seems to point to just leaving PB2 on and if your really daring trying PBO out, although that seems broken right now, manual OC just seems a complete waste of time on these chips.

If i can get 4.35 - 4.4ghz out of my 3800X on the x570 Taichi i'll be happy, tbh at stock its an upgrade as it runs at 3.9ghz which is the same as what i have my 1700 clocked to, so any way i look at it im getting more performance, even at stock the IPC increase will be better.

opethdisciple · 9 Jul 2019 at 09:19

Orange Nexus said:
So it is fine to go over 3733 MHz?

As far as I know you can, but it changes the Infinity fabric divider. I'd personally stick with AMD's recommendation of 3600MHz.

subbytna · 9 Jul 2019 at 09:23

i_am_jon said:
DPD say my 3900x and Aorus Ultra isn't due until 12ish

Not working today. Case is stripped with PSU installed waiting for motherboard, even checked the standoffs are in right place. Windows 10 & BIOS USB sticks ready to go.

The next 3 hours will drag in for you like a mofo

Stick Lord of the rings film on and job done

Orange Nexus · 9 Jul 2019 at 09:23

opethdisciple said:
As far as I know you can, but it changes the Infinity fabric divider. I'd personally stick with AMD's recommendation of 3600MHz.

Let's hear it from @Silent_Scone if there are any negative effects of going over.

subbytna · 9 Jul 2019 at 09:25

emodan said:
Least they are arriving before 12. I got the message yesterday my new motherboard was due at 1930. At my work address so had to call DPD to rearrange as the building will be closed. DPD then returned it to OC so now I have a CPU on the way today with no motherboard in sight.

Ouch. Savage

alec · 9 Jul 2019 at 09:25

Wingz said:
Robert from Reddit about the concerns that the PBO not boosting properly
So it sounds like its not a bios problem, but working as intended

I wouldn't call advertising a cpu with a max boost frequency that can't be reached in any configuration "working as intended". I would understand if that max boost could be reached only on high end x570 at temperatures under 70C etc. But testers literally have never seen clocks reaching boost speed at any load.

Stop putting 4.6GHz label on 3900X then. Overclock is overclock, but stock boost must work

chroniclard · 9 Jul 2019 at 09:25

SiDeards73 said:
Everything i have read seems to point to just leaving PB2 on and if your really daring trying PBO out, although that seems broken right now, manual OC just seems a complete waste of time on these chips.

If i can get 4.35 - 4.4ghz out of my 3800X on the x570 Taichi i'll be happy, tbh at stock its an upgrade as it runs at 3.9ghz which is the same as what i have my 1700 clocked to, so any way i look at it im getting more performance, even at stock the IPC increase will be better.

Be almost tempted to see how low a voltage you could get with 4.3-4.4, I run my 2700X on 1.26V @ 4115 all core at the moment....just as an experiment on how low I could get it.

I dont see the boost frequencies of Ryzen being that useful, certainly not in the majority of games.

Mercutio · 9 Jul 2019 at 09:26

opethdisciple said:
As far as I know you can, but it changes the Infinity fabric divider. I'd personally stick with AMD's recommendation of 3600MHz.

3733 is the last one that's on the 1/1 divider. After that, yeah, it's on a 2/1.

If you can get to 3733 easily enough, try and manually tighten timings. I think sticking to 3733@ 1:1 and just getting ever faster elsewhere is the way forward if you have sticks for it.

Silent_Scone · 9 Jul 2019 at 09:26

opethdisciple said:
As far as I know you can, but it changes the Infinity fabric divider. I'd personally stick with AMD's recommendation of 3600MHz.

Orange Nexus said:
Let's hear it from @Silent_Scone if there are any negative effects of going over.

Nothing negative, just very little gain. A 1:1 ratio is ideal, most CPU won't do more than 1800MHz FCLK

4800MHz

DragonQ · 9 Jul 2019 at 09:26

neil473 said:
Interesting for anyone wanting to side mount their Gen4 GPU on X570

Http://twitter.com/hardwarecanucks/status/1148407188693688325?s=19

Doesn't surprise me, we had tonnes of issues with PCIe 3.0 risers and extender cables causing signal integrity issues at work, and 4.0 is even more difficult to get right.

alec said:
I wouldn't call advertising a cpu with a max boost frequency that can't be reached in any configuration "working as intended". I would understand if that max boost could be reached only on high end x570 at temperatures under 70C etc. But testers literally have never seen clocks reaching boost speed at any load.

Stop putting 4.6GHz label on 3900X then. Overclock is overclock, but stock boost must work

To be fair, boost clocks are never guaranteed, not even by Intel (hence a lot of their chips have low base clock). I do agree though that if no-one, even with great cooling, is even seeing these frequencies, then it's false advertising.

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