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well it wont be silent if that fan is running. They are far from silent.As long as it's silent who cares
Isn't Zen 1 the first real mainstream 8C chip so only 2017?
What about the FX chips?
well it wont be silent if that fan is running. They are far from silent.
Mini ITX physically doesn't have the space to cram in all the devices that would connect up to that PCH. You'd get PCIe 4 on the single 16x slot coming off the CPU and a maximum of 2 NVMe drives running full speed off the chipset. Really doubt you'd need active cooling for that.It has active cooling for the chipset. I hope this doesn't mean we have no X570 mini-ITX boards,or the chipset can overheat on these!
The only game demo that will be of any realistic use will be something esports, so 1080p at 240fps. That's really the only place where Intel has a sizeable performance advantage, so if Ryzen 3000 can be shown to close or eliminate that gap then we're onto a winner and make logical assumptions that other performance deficits (minimum fps for instance) will also be rectified.I'm buzzing. I hope Lisa shows a game demo (vs Intel) at computex and not just synthetics.
Really? 1fps difference is "loving 8 core"
https://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/software/kingdom_come_deliverance_performance_review/12
The newest run is significantly worse than the 3 month old one though. Online tests like these are so fuzzy, it's really hard to get any hard numbers, or even vague ones sometimes.
It has active cooling for the chipset. I hope this doesn't mean we have no X570 mini-ITX boards,or the chipset can overheat on these!
What? I'm talking about the engineering sample. Obviously an actually released CPU has far more than 3 runs posted...No, the entries are 2602 as of right now and they do show approximately equal results with different clocks, ranging from turbo 5GHz (which I don't know if is reported correctly) to as low as 3.7GHz. Again 2000-2100 points in the multi-core subset.
https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/AMD-Ryzen-TR-1920X/Rating/3934
Probably it has something to do with how the XFR kicks in, so you can never say the correct frequency.
Aye. There were a few for X370, but everything after was B450. Never saw the point in X470 for ITX boards though, so it's a weird one.Really hoping for a Micro ATX X570 board as nobody seems to have made any Micro ATX X470 ones
PCIe 4 signals need better copper traces and signal repeaters over a certain length from what I remember. So you can conceivably make the closest PCIe slot to the CPU PCIe 4 capable (less than 7 inches away), but couldn't run those signals down the length of the board to other areas like M.2 slots.I wonder if PCIe gen 4 will not be possible on older boards because the additional heat can't be dissipated with a passive heatsink.
Em... Not for you it's not. You don't speak for everyone. Why on earth would you WANT a component to get so hot it needs active cooling rather than run cooler and not require a fan? That's just ridiculous.Active cooling is a good sign in general about the capabilities of the motherboards and it's worked in the direction to offer more features/performance.
I like that chipset fan and hope will see it everywhere. Noise is not a problem.
By the time I get around to upgrading, the current Ryzen platform should have the chipset fabbed at 7nm hopefully so this won't still be an issue.Em... Not for you it's not. You don't speak for everyone. Why on earth would you WANT a component to get so hot it needs active cooling rather than run cooler and not require a fan? That's just ridiculous.
I've had chipset fans in the past and I can tell you they are audible when running.
Agree. The smaller the fan the worse they are for sure. It's a horrible noise to push bugger all air. Im hoping good case fans will make these chipset fans redundant. They will of course be on there for the worst possible situation of zero airflow and very hot case internals.By the time I get around to upgrading, the current Ryzen platform should have the chipset fabbed at 7nm hopefully so this won't still be an issue.
Not a fan of, well any fan that I can hear and the smaller ones tend to whine.