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AMD Zen 2 - Threadripper 3rd gen thread

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So after seeing the Ryzen 3000 series of processors absolutely smash it, I'm excited to see what Threadripper 3rd gen can do.

Let's get the hype train going - use this thread to post news, leaks and your thoughts on TR3.

My guess for new TR stack:-

24 core - 4.8ghz single boost, 3.6ghz all core, 180w, 949usd
32 core - 5ghz single boost, 3.6ghz all core, 180w, 1249usd
48 core - 4.6ghz single boost, 3.2ghz all core, 250w, 1599usd
64 core - 4.6ghz single boost, 3.2ghz all core, 250w, 1999usd
 
Thought my old 1950X was great but not sure I have a requirement for >16 cores. I assume TR will be starting from 24. 16 core with higher clock speeds than the mainstream would be nice tho (ie, binned and spaced out for temp control, if that's even possible)
 
Yes this is the thread I have been waiting for :) Cannot wait to see what is on offer for us :D I don't know why but I also think we might see a 5ghz part and agree that it will be the 32 core. It will be massively expensive is my guess so around £1200 I recon. If we dont see a 5ghz part I think it will be something like 4.8/9 ghz.

DarrenM343 said:
Thought my old 1950X was great but not sure I have a requirement for >16 cores. I assume TR will be starting from 24. 16 core with higher clock speeds than the mainstream would be nice tho (ie, binned and spaced out for temp control, if that's even possible)
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TR has always traditionally been the fastest of all the ryzen parts in terms of clock speeds so I don't see why that would change this gen.
 
Vince said:
TR has always traditionally been the fastest of all the ryzen parts in terms of clock speeds so I don't see why that would change this gen.
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Indeed, and the fact they have much higher TDP to play with allows this - I wonder how much power the I/O die will consume, and will they cripple the RAM to quad channel only.
 
I was going to jump on 12core ryzen but might wait for threadripper, I need the extra nvme space but don't really need more than 16cpu's cores.

When can we expect them? waiting is killing me.
 
AMDPower said:
I was going to jump on 12core ryzen but might wait for threadripper, I need the extra nvme space but don't really need more than 16cpu's cores.

When can we expect them? waiting is killing me.
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Q4 '19, but which end is anybody's guess, as they still haven't pushed EPYC Rome out yet, although that is due end of this month.

How much NVMe space (as you put it) do you need? What configuration are you running, or do you want to run?
 
tommoT.Striker said:
I'm very interested to see how these will perform. $1250 for 32 cores would be a great deal and with the IPC improvements...Wow.
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That's just the OP guessing on the price.
Based on the fact that the TR 2990WX lists for $1,800 and still sells close to that and looking at Ryzen 3000 pricing, a ~30% price cut for a faster chips seems unlikely.
 
smilingcrow said:
The lower tiers have all had a price reduction but the TR 2990WX which is the context here hasn't.
Why? Because it's the only one that isn't being challenged by Ryzen 3000 in pure CPU terms! Possibly.
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Yes, but the 32-core isn't going to be the top of the tree anymore for Zen2 based TR CPU's so it will likely end up costing around $1200-1400, with a premium for the high core counts, be it 40 or 48 cores.
 
smilingcrow said:
The lower tiers have all had a price reduction but the TR 2990WX which is the context here hasn't.
Why? Because it's the only one that isn't being challenged by Ryzen 3000 in pure CPU terms! Possibly.
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Few places had it for 1400 at the weekend, few places have it for 1500 now. It's coming down. That's why i guessed at 2000usd/2000gbp for the 64 core and looking at each tier - you'll note it increases 300 > 350 > 400 for each tier, a pattern observed for prev TR2 releases. Also priced initial starting tier price in comparison with the gap between Ryzen and TR previously, although though there is room for +100usd on each tier there - but I can't see the entry tier TR being more than 1000usd and I don't think they'll want to breach the 2000usd ceiling either.

The 2950x wasn't being challenged by mainstream Ryzen, but they still knocked 15% off the price vs 1950x.
 
Journey said:
Yes, but the 32-core isn't going to be the top of the tree anymore for Zen2 based TR CPU's so it will likely end up costing around $1200-1400, with a premium for the high core counts, be it 40 or 48 cores.
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Maybe but based on the Ryzen 3000 pricing versus current Ryzen 2000 pricing, there's no sign of AMD wanting to offer more cores per $, in fact pricing has gone up per core.
Plus the top tier for Ryzen 3000 is way above that for 2000.
When you also consider that workstation pricing is much less price sensitive than for desktop, all the signs suggest that AMD aren't so likely to drop pricing for 32C for the their next generation that much if at all.
And 64C for $2k seems a complete fantasy. We had the same thing with Ryzen 3 series where some were guessing that 16C would be around $400-450.
 
DarrenM343 said:
Thought my old 1950X was great but not sure I have a requirement for >16 cores. I assume TR will be starting from 24. 16 core with higher clock speeds than the mainstream would be nice tho (ie, binned and spaced out for temp control, if that's even possible)
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Agree, I'm hoping they have a low core count entry level version, by low 16 is fine if it helps clocks, I don't need cores just IOs, in fact my use case has changd for now and don't really need that but more CPU performance is welcome, 2xxx wasn't enough of a bump to warrant a purchase, though now prices have dropped my interest has been piqued.
 
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smilingcrow said:
Maybe but based on the Ryzen 3000 pricing versus current Ryzen 2000 pricing, there's no sign of AMD wanting to offer more cores per $, in fact pricing has gone up per core.
Plus the top tier for Ryzen 3000 is way above that for 2000.
When you also consider that workstation pricing is much less price sensitive than for desktop, all the signs suggest that AMD aren't so likely to drop pricing for 32C for the their next generation that much if at all.
And 64C for $2k seems a complete fantasy. We had the same thing with Ryzen 3 series where some were guessing that 16C would be around $400-450.
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Price per core pricing in HEDT is what we are looking at though, and 1950X at $999, then the 2950X at $899, so the 16-core part is going to be $749-799, and the 24-core part will be 50% more which is how Ryzen 3xxx is priced at the high end, right? So $799+ 50% = $1200, and then $1800 for the 32-core part, pushing the 40/48 core parts to $2500/3000.

I don't think they will release a 64-core version to be honest, at least not for a while.
 
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