AMD Zen 3 (5000 Series), rumored 17% IPC gain.

[Aretak]

Asus looks like it's adding a big premium on its B550 motherboards . The mATX B550 Prime looks to be £130 or £50 more than the B450 equivalent,and the B550I Strix mini-ITX motherboard looks to be £230 or £70~£80 more than the B450I Strix,or around X570 mini-ITX pricing.

I think it's better to spend a bit more and get an X570 motherboard if B550 motherboards are this pricey!

I hope B550 flops horribly if that's the pricing across the board for it. It's absolutely bat**** crazy for them to be pricing higher end models the same as mid-range X570 boards. Consumers need to push back against the practices of companies constantly trying to raise the bar for entry. It was bad enough when it happened in the GPU market. If people refuse to pay these inflated prices, they will have no choice but to bring them down.

 

[humbug]

The VRM set and Heat Sync on this £135 Z490 is no better than it is on my £80 B350. https://www.overclockers.co.uk/asro...-lga-1200-ddr4-atx-motherboard-mb-177-ak.html

No way i'm paying £135 for something like that.

My B350. https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/AB350 Pro4/index.asp

 

[Joxeon]

I hope B550 flops horribly if that's the pricing across the board for it. It's absolutely bat**** crazy for them to be pricing higher end models the same as mid-range X570 boards. Consumers need to push back against the practices of companies constantly trying to raise the bar for entry. It was bad enough when it happened in the GPU market. If people refuse to pay these inflated prices, they will have no choice but to bring them down.

A lot of people didn't like X570 due to the fan but wanted a high end board so i guess thats where B550 comes in.

 

[LePhuronn]

Standard Asus for you. Let's see how everybody else shakes up before freaking out.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

I hope B550 flops horribly if that's the pricing across the board for it. It's absolutely bat**** crazy for them to be pricing higher end models the same as mid-range X570 boards. Consumers need to push back against the practices of companies constantly trying to raise the bar for entry. It was bad enough when it happened in the GPU market. If people refuse to pay these inflated prices, they will have no choice but to bring them down.

A lot of people didn't like X570 due to the fan but wanted a high end board so i guess thats where B550 comes in.

The Zen 4000 APUs have been listed as only working with 500 series chipsets. That means if the Asus 500 series pricing holds true,then below £120 you are going to mostly have A520 motherboards with no overclocking,etc. The Asus B550M Prime looks to be more expensive than the B450 Mortar. The issue is at this point,the Intel B and H series motherboards will be functionally the same as the A520 for most things,so AMD won't actually have any price advantage there.

Also the B550I Strix has a fan,so there is no real point to it.

Standard Asus for you. Let's see how everybody else shakes up before freaking out.

We need to see if MSI and ASRock follow suite - they tended to have the better entry level and mainstream B450 motherboards.

 

[TNA]

Glad I went X570. The fan issue was something that was putting me off, but turned out to be a non issue as it only comes on during boot up process.

 

[TNA]

Drives me to distraction when you try to explain somebody's incorrect use and they just stubbornly ignore you. I'm not correcting you because I'm arrogant, I'm correcting you because you're wrong and it's important that you're not wrong.

Panos loves to do that

 

[LePhuronn]

Panos loves to do that

Funny, it's only since 4K8K's permaban has Panos become really quite excruciating.

Is there some kind of torch being passed around?

 

[TNA]

Funny, it's only since 4K8K's permaban has Panos become really quite excruciating.

Is there some kind of torch being passed around?

Lol

 

[jigger]

The B550 launch is dragging.

 

[Deleted member 209350]

3900 XT incoming and it looks to be spanking those intel spaceheaters!

12cores boosting upto 4.8ghz? yeah that seems wild

 

[Woodsta888]

Funny, it's only since 4K8K's permaban has Panos become really quite excruciating.

Is there some kind of torch being passed around?

LOL I thought 4K8K just gave up

 

[LePhuronn]

LOL I thought 4K8K just gave up

"measures had been taken", or words to that effect.

 

[KungFuSpaghetti]

That guy was utterly bonkers, totally detached from reality. Had Ryzen 4000 not delivered 50% uplift and 12 cores for £150 he'd be losing his mind. Bless.

I've gone from the 2700x, to the 3900x, but feel like going to Ryzen is probably a pointless expense... kind of hoping it's not going to be a major uplift to tempt me!

 

[Deleted member 209350]

LOL I thought 4K8K just gave up

Not to beat a dead horse here, but it was way overdue...

Getting back on topic though, whats peoples opinions about the 3900 XT

 

[Deleted member 209350]

That guy was utterly bonkers, totally detached from reality. Had Ryzen 4000 not delivered 50% uplift and 12 cores for £150 he'd be losing his mind. Bless.

I've gone from the 2700x, to the 3900x, but feel like going to Ryzen is probably a pointless expense... kind of hoping it's not going to be a major uplift to tempt me!

Would probably be better just to skip 1 year and upgrade after 2 years considering its likely AM5 after this. Might not be worth upgrading just for 1 year of AM4

 

[Vince]

They need to bring back the XTX moniker! XT just means its good, probably better than the competition but isn't going to pound them into the floor. XTX is for products where there is no competition and this is what we need

 

[KungFuSpaghetti]

Would probably be better just to skip 1 year and upgrade after 2 years considering its likely AM5 after this. Might not be worth upgrading just for 1 year of AM4

Yup, you're totally right and that's how I should be thinking... I hope I dont get tempted basically! I did buy this motherboard wanting to get some mileage out of it and to be fair several generations of CPU upgrades is pretty decent and it's likely the reason that some x470 haven't budged much in price.

 

[LePhuronn]

Getting back on topic though, whats peoples opinions about the 3900 XT

Only paranoid negativity.

It's still a 12 core, dual CCX, dual chiplet design so it's going to have all the "shortcomings" of the existing 3900X, and I'm not sure the clock bumps will make that much of a difference against the niche use cases Intel still retain their lead in. As a result, enthusiasts will go "cool, nice to see TSMC's yields mature nicely so we can get this bump", the Intel sheep will go "lololol AMD do a refresh and STILL can't get 5GHz and beat us at gaming, which is the only thing that matters. Faildozer 2", and the casuals will go "there's an XT now?".

So I kinda see it as pointless, tbh.

And putting in some refreshes potentially doesn't bode well for Zen 3 landing on time, even with the Human Malware running about. OK, so Comet Lake is out, but who really cares? Those extreme FPS gamers will still buy Intel because it's the best for their purposes, the fanbois will still cry idiocy, and the non-partisan enthusiasts have dismissed it already. It's a detriment to AMD to do this refresh as it's going to be seen (whether intended or not) as a response to Comet Lake, and it's a response which likely won't address the deficits. Zen 3 is taking on Rocket Lake, so I'm not sure what can get served by AMD even acknowledging Comet Lake's presence.

Unless these clock bumps really do **** Comet Lake, pushing AMD in front before Zen 3 even lands.

 

[LePhuronn]

Although, did I read that the XT models are getting a IF clock bump too? 2GHz on the fabric would give a bit of a boost as well as CPU base clocks going up.