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AMD Zen 3 (5000 Series), rumored 17% IPC gain.

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The refresh thread and some recent posts in here are a bit depressing :(. I'm still on a 3570K and really want to upgrade around / not long after Cyberpunk...I really want Zen 3's 3700X successor, but it sounds like that might not come till well into 2021 :(

Edit: For the record, the refreshes are fine (Intel would've no doubt put them on a new platform..) but I wish they would've came sooner or something.
 
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So do we think these will drop before the end of the transition period? If it's next year does that mean they're going to be super expensive? @Gibbo

VAT is Import tax, we already pay 20% on good's not made in the EU, that includes CPU's.

After the transition period ends we will have full control of that, we will choose how much import tax we put on imported goods and it may well be that Mr Trump wants us to lower those taxes in exchange for low import tax on our goods to the US. Or not, it may stay the same, it may go down, it may go up, whatever it will be that will be entirely on Mr Johnson.
 
VAT is Import tax, we already pay 20% on good's not made in the EU, that includes CPU's.

After the transition period ends we will have full control of that, we will choose how much import tax we put on imported goods and it may well be that Mr Trump wants us to lower those taxes in exchange for low import tax on our goods to the US. Or not, it may stay the same, it may go down, it may go up, whatever it will be that will be entirely on Mr Johnson.

He might not be in power by the end of the year. Also i thought there was an additional 2.5% import duty?

So do chips/Motherboards etc come straight to the UK from the US not through Europe? Presumably not on OCUK as they're owned by Caseking now. Genuinely interested.
 
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He might not be in power by the end of the year.

So do chips/Motherboards etc come straight to the UK from the US not through Europe? Presumably not on OCUK as they're owned by Caseking now. Genuinely interested.

No, even if they went into some sort of sorting hub in the EU those products are not being sold in the EU.

CPU and GPU's are US products, it doesn't mater so much where they are physically made these are US company products. Motherboards, RAM, PSU's...... are usually from oriental nations, sometimes from the US, EVGA for example are a US company. Again, those products coming to us are not being sold in the EU.

This however is besides the point, none of these products have anything to do with EU, unless they are actually German or French products, i think Germany makes some PC products, my Keyboard (Roccat) is German.

The EU has control of import taxes into the EU, for as long as we are part of the EU we have little if any say on what Tax EU charges for foreign goods sold inside its boarders, once the transition period ends we are no longer under the EU's jurisdiction, and we set our own import taxes, that's where trade deal negotiations come in, if we say to the US or Taiwan please reduce the taxes on our Jaguar Cars so they become more affordable for your people to buy and we sell more they may say ok but only if you lower the Tax on our CPU's and Motherboards, the EU have nothing to do with Intel, Nvidia, AMD or Asus and not being in the EU has no say on what Taxes we put on Asus Motherboards or AMD CPU's.
 
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VAT is Import tax, we already pay 20% on good's not made in the EU, that includes CPU's.

After the transition period ends we will have full control of that, we will choose how much import tax we put on imported goods and it may well be that Mr Trump wants us to lower those taxes in exchange for low import tax on our goods to the US. Or not, it may stay the same, it may go down, it may go up, whatever it will be that will be entirely on Mr Johnson.

Duty is the import tax - there is VAT added on to that too
 
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