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AMD Zen 3 (5000 Series), rumored 17% IPC gain.

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humbug said:
Still, this is what Zen 2 can do when not hampered by Intercore latency.
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That's damn good, do we have any solid indication on CCX size for Zen3 yet?

edit - I know the current rumour is 8, just wondering if it's been confirmed yet.


Also, do MSI tend to support their AMD boards well? Tempted by the X570 Tomahawk. No way in *hell* I'm going Asus again.
 
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Any news on Zen 3's memory speed? Will it be sticking to 3200MHz?
Much need/advantage in buying say 3600MHz now if anticipating a zen 3 upgrade in the future?
 
JediFragger said:
That's damn good, do we have any solid indication on CCX size for Zen3 yet?

edit - I know the current rumour is 8, just wondering if it's been confirmed yet.


Also, do MSI tend to support their AMD boards well? Tempted by the X570 Tomahawk. No way in *hell* I'm going Asus again.
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AMD said they would be single CCX, 8 is the assumption given the core counts remain the same. The X570 Tomahawk will support Zen 3, yes.
 
Participant said:
...which automatically makes it not just a refreshed Zen 3, surely?
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Zen+ was a refresh, even though it was on a smaller 12nm node as opposed to 14nm.

Shrinking doesn't change the architecture. Zen 3 on 5nm would still be Zen 3.

The fact that Zen 4 has a higher number suggests it's got some big architectural improvements as well as the move to 5nm.
 
Jokester said:
DDR5 is rumoured to be coming in to Zen4 isn't it?
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I don't think it is a rumor per say, more so a forced natural progression that will occur due to the urgency to get DDR5 to market for DC, and AMD needing Genoa to offer it means the desktop will also get it.
 
https://www.hardwaretimes.com/amd-z...-to-pack-64-cores-ddr5-pcie-5-and-new-socket/

As per German outlet, HardwareLuxx, AMD is looking to increase the single-threaded performance of its upcoming Zen 3 processors by at least 20%. This gain will come from an increase of 15% in IPC while rest will be achieved by increasing the operating clocks.
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The core counts are expected to stay the same, with the consumer CPUs maxing out at 16 and the server chips packing up to 64 cores. Furthermore, as already reported earlier, AMD will be ditching the CCX design and sticking to a single CCD or chiplet without any partitions. As such, the L3 cache will now be shared between the eight cores on a chiplet, resulting in a better cache hit rate. The rest will remain the same.
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Jokester said:
DDR5 is rumoured to be coming in to Zen4 isn't it?
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As for Genoa, you can expect a higher core count than 64 (again, as reported earlier) and a new socket. Both the server and client platforms will see this change with the former migrating to SP5 and the latter to AM5. As such, a lot of new technologies are to be expected including DDR5, 6nm EUV process, PCIe 5 and support for Persistent Memory (NVDIMM-P) for the server side. At the same time though, AMD will stick with SMT 2 rather than SMT 4 as rumored earlier.
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CuriousTomCat said:
As productivty benchmarks dont seem to be affected by CCX latency, this 20% increase must be purely down to other architectual improvements. So games may see the 20% IPC improvement as well as a further 15% for improved latency like we saw with the 3300x? So potentially a 35% increase in games?
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You forgot the extra +30% that comes from sheer wishful thinking ;)
 
Might need to start putting a little money aside for Ryzen 4xxx. (even though I just got 3xxx lol). I don't normally upgrade as quickly, but the improvements are pretty darn good.
 
CuriousTomCat said:
As productivty benchmarks dont seem to be affected by CCX latency, this 20% increase must be purely down to other architectual improvements. So games may see the 20% IPC improvement as well as a further 15% for improved latency like we saw with the 3300x? So potentially a 35% increase in games?
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That would be best case, i'm going to stick with +15% for games, that's more than enough...
 
I just wish this and the next-gen GPU's would both be released at the same time so I can get the pain of upgrading over with! Sadly it looks like there will be a couple of months yet until Zen3 hits.
 
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