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AMD Zen 3 (5000 Series), rumored 17% IPC gain.

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Jokester said:
DDR5 is rumoured to be coming in to Zen4 isn't it?
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Not sure if you are referring Zen 4 as the Zen architecture design after the Zen 3 (4000 series and 5000 Series) or just the 5000 CPUs. Warhol is the code name for 5000 series chips. some leaks of the road map showing the Warhol will be on 7nm and support PCIe 4 and no mentioning of DDR5. the are speculating Warhol will still be on AM4 before the AMD fully embracing AM5 and DDR5. this kinda makes sense as Warhol will be a refresh (refinement) of the Vermeer Zen 3 archtecture.

its all speculative atm

https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/amd-ryzen-2021-2022-roadmap-with-codenames-leak-van-gogh-and-warhol.html#:~:text=Gogh and Warhol-,AMD Ryzen 2021-2022 roadmap with,leak - Van Gogh and Warhol&text=Van Gogh is labelled as,thus be expected in 2021.
 
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I believe AMD would want to get zen 3 out the door this year as DDR5 arrives next year and they won't want to delay it to much and let Intel Hoover up all the early adopters.
 
Richdog said:
I just wish this and the next-gen GPU's would both be released at the same time so I can get the pain of upgrading over with! Sadly it looks like there will be a couple of months yet until Zen3 hits.
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AM5 and DDR5 with PCIe 5 can't come soon enough. I think the best bet today is to wait a year for it instead of jumping on the DDR4 AM4 bandwagon so late in its life cycle and then in 12 months your platform to be already morally obsolete ... :rolleyes:

The April 2017 X370 Asrock Taichi supports Ryzen 9 3950X with BIOS P5.80.
https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/X370 Taichi/index.asp#CPU
 
4K8KW10 said:
...instead jumping on the DDR4 AM4 bandwagon so late in its life cycle and then in 12 months your platform to be already morally obsolete ... :rolleyes:
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Morally obsolete? What's that? I prefer to think of it as mature, tried and tested etc. A solid Zen 3, PCIe 4.0 system should be good for years. Buy a six core this year, upgrade to a higher clocked, 12-16 core in 3 years.
 
clv101 said:
Morally obsolete? What's that? I prefer to think of it as mature, tried and tested etc. A solid Zen 3, PCIe 4.0 system should be good for years. Buy a six core this year, upgrade to a higher clocked, 12-16 core in 3 years.
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Morally obsolete means that it's not the most modern and fastest platform. Why bother with 12-16 core when at the same timeframe you can have 24-32-core with much better feature set?

Good for years according to you means good for office and light gaming in reality.
 
Is DDR5 and PCIE 5 even going to offer any tangible upgrades a normal user (particularly the latter)?

History suggests that moving from mature DDR platform to the new version doesn’t yield significant performance gains for early adopters but is significantly more expensive. The initial speeds are typically significantly below what they end up at some years later, just look at DDR3 and 4, they are perfect examples of this. Some laptops were still shipping with DDR3 a year ago.

Other than fast SSDs there isn’t really anything that needs the bandwidth available on PCIE4 let alone 5. Before you say NVME ssds, the reality is that the gains from going from SATA to NVME is marginal at best in real world tasks like loading times and system responsiveness for almost all users.
 
CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
On desktop compared to Skylake,on mobile I think their newest core is similar to Zen2??
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Desktop is what i'm talking about but if Intel newest core is - Zen 2 that's not good either. Back to where we are now only this time AMD don't have CXX's and higher clocks.
 
Does anyone know when we can expect to hear an announcement from AMD regarding Zen 3?

The old Ryzen 3000 series haven't received any discounts which means no one is preparing currently for its release. After all, the retailers should clear their stock and warehouses for the new batches.
Ryzen 7 3700X for £340 more than a year after its launch is not ok.
 
4K8KW10 said:
Does anyone know when we can expect to hear an announcement from AMD regarding Zen 3?

The old Ryzen 3000 series haven't received any discounts which means no one is preparing currently for its release. After all, the retailers should clear their stock and warehouses for the new batches.
Ryzen 7 3700X for £340 more than a year after its launch is not ok.
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Don't go by OcUK prices :p It's below £300 everywhere else
 
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