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I think the leaks your referring too were zen3 or otherwise known as Ryzen 4000, not zen4/Ryzen 5000.
Ah yes, gets confusing this zen 2 = 3000 series, zen 3 = 4000 series.
I don't think many people care about pcie gen 4 tbh else everyone would have brought X570 instead of B450.
When the only PCIe 4 devices were a pair of Radeon cards and overpriced SSDs for sure, but now the new GPUs from both camps are PCIe 4, the SSDs are getting cheaper and the PC Gaming Master Race is going to see a major storage and I/O performance deficit to the new consoles. PCIe 4 is starting to matter.
SSDs have been going up in price lately and I can't see pcie 4 making much difference over a good pcie3 nvme. The tech is coming out on consoles to leverage more ssd speed but don't forget the vast majority of PC gamers don't even have an SSD for a game drive let alone a gen 4 nvme so I can't see much changing here for a couple of years atleast.
Perhaps, but the Gen 4 SSDs are significantly faster, and that's going to be important going forward.
I entirely disagree. It's not just leveraging more speed as the stand-alone metric, it's what devs can do with the game engines because of that speed. Hell, the PS5 is pitched as almost instant-access because of how the SSD is tied into system and GPU memory. There are going to be games in the consoles that simply cannot run on mechanical drives, and possibly even SATA SSDs. We're not talking "bad console ports" here, we're talking AAA games that won't ever see the light of day on PC. But then the PC Gaming Master Race is collectively a bunch of elitist morons anyway so they probably won't give 2 hoots. But then, imagine if CoD or MW on the console suddenly could things the PC version can't...
Yeah, but that's pretty much irrelevant to Joe Average. If Nvidia have "PCIe 4 ready" slapped on the box then Joe Average is going to think "well I need a PCIe 4 system". That's Zen 2, Zen 3 and Rocket Lake. That's now, 8 months and 12 months down the line.
My pair of 2600X running on B450 Mortax MAX would disagree. Unless it was MSI that did the workaround, and if it was there's nothing to stop other board vendors doing the same. Other than the loss of revenue by supporting EOL products and thus removing the necessity for customers to upgrade their boards, of course.
I would recommend watching the video but the short answer is yes MSI did a workaround.
Steve Burke isn’t the golden standard for being right. He is got a loud squeaky voice And he is definitely wrong on many accounts in that video. Pre-mattise CPUs can definitely work with MAX board. I have a system that slots in a B450 Max that is working just as intended. I really don’t know if Steve does any editorial validation or he just gobs off whatever is on his mind. I think the after is more likely to be the case as he often contradicts himself from one video to another.
