• Competitor rules

    Please remember that any mention of competitors, hinting at competitors or offering to provide details of competitors will result in an account suspension. The full rules can be found under the 'Terms and Rules' link in the bottom right corner of your screen. Just don't mention competitors in any way, shape or form and you'll be OK.

AMD Zen 3 (Ryzen 4000) already in the works

Zen 3 is rumored to be flaunting monumental IPC gains in early testing
Zen 3 could be a bigger upgrade than Zen 2
https://www.techspot.com/news/83347-zen-3-rumored-flaunting-monumental-ipc-gains-early.html

"According to Red Gaming Tech and Bits n' Chips, a multitude of AMD’s customers have tested Zen 3 and all say the same thing. The new architecture’s redesigned floating-point units have increased IPC in scientific tasks by something close to 50%, while integer work has seen a 10-12% boost. The combination of the two has resulted in a ~17% or greater IPC increase in mixed workloads."
 
4K8KW10 said:
Zen 3 is rumored to be flaunting monumental IPC gains in early testing
Zen 3 could be a bigger upgrade than Zen 2
https://www.techspot.com/news/83347-zen-3-rumored-flaunting-monumental-ipc-gains-early.html

"According to Red Gaming Tech and Bits n' Chips, a multitude of AMD’s customers have tested Zen 3 and all say the same thing. The new architecture’s redesigned floating-point units have increased IPC in scientific tasks by something close to 50%, while integer work has seen a 10-12% boost. The combination of the two has resulted in a ~17% or greater IPC increase in mixed workloads."
Click to expand...

My god, Intel headed even further into the gutter
 
12% integer IPC increase which is directly used by gaAmes, plus 100mhz extra clocks and hopefully reduced latency.

maybe 15% gaming performance boost?

of course none of it matter for 1440p and 4K gaming since Zen 2 doesn't bottleneck any gpu- but more gaming performance will be nice for those who stay on 1080p
 
Grim5 said:
of course none of it matter for 1440p and 4K gaming since Zen 2 doesn't bottleneck any gpu- but more gaming performance will be nice for those who stay on 1080p
Click to expand...

Yeah but most people upgrade their GPU at least once or twice, even three times while keeping the same CPU. I'm sure after the 3rd GPU upgrade, the CPU will be starting to bottleneck. Even at 4k.
 
CuriousTomCat said:
Yeah but most people upgrade their GPU at least once or twice, even three times while keeping the same CPU. I'm sure after the 3rd GPU upgrade, the CPU will be starting to bottleneck. Even at 4k.
Click to expand...

People used to, but GPU development has been at a standstill and prices have gotten out of control. I went through three full system upgrades with the same graphics cards as nothing made any sense.
 
Last edited:
CuriousTomCat said:
Yeah but most people upgrade their GPU at least once or twice, even three times while keeping the same CPU. I'm sure after the 3rd GPU upgrade, the CPU will be starting to bottleneck. Even at 4k.
Click to expand...

I don't fully understand the mechanics of it, maybe someone can explain this.

Ive seen a game that gets bottlenecked before it even gets to 120fps at 1080p and the gpu is under-utilised - by a 5ghz 9900k.

Then the same game with SLI at 4K where the GPU is not bottlenecked, and it gets to 120fps with nearly full load on both GPUs.

So why is it that a game can bottleneck before 120fps at 1080p but not bottleneck at 4K and exceed 120fps without the CPU becoming a problem?

Because I've seen this several times, it leads me to believe modern CPUs can easily run without bottlenecking at 4K - I don't know why though.

But because of this, I was very comfortable buying the 3950x for 4K gaming as I have no concern of it getting bottlenecking a gpu in 2 or even 3 generations as you mentioned
 
Last edited:
jigger said:
People used to, but GPU development has been at a standstill and prices have gotten out of control. I went through three full system upgrades with the same graphics cards as nothing made any sense.
Click to expand...

yeah its turning into quite a pain knowing that GPU tech is currently so far behind CPU tech. Im hoping to see this change in 2020. We need GPU's that can push out 4k at over 100 fps relatively comfortably
 
I’m more interested in this now it seems like there probably won’t be a new chipset, so it’s just the cost of the CPU.

Imagine I’d still get a decent amount back for my 3900X.
 
jigger said:
WOW. That will be a massive win for AMD and huge problem for Intel. That will smash most of Intels desktop parts for 25watts?
Click to expand...

Yes. Ryzens have considerably higher performance-per-watt than intel's counter-parts:

AMD-Performance-per-watt.png

https://www.kitguru.net/components/...en-9-3900x-ryzen-7-3700x-zen-2-cpu-review/11/
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom