AMD doesn't restrict any overclocking like Intel do on lower models[/QUOTE]
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AMD doesn't restrict any overclocking like Intel do on lower models[/QUOTE]
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Quite. Arrived just now - first thing I did was remove the sticker - no visible residue. Motherboard was at maybe 10°C to 15°C when I did this, straight out of the DPD van.
Soldato
It's 'early adopter tax ' .There's always peeps out there who will buy new and price won't be an issue.
They just want the 'new'.
Soon there will be cheaper boards.
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This diagram explains really well what you get from a 2nd Promontory 21 chip, in addition to a single chip:
• M2 NVME X4 PCIe v4 slot
• x4 Sata III ports
• 2 20Gbps USB type C ports
• 4 10Gbps USB standard type ports
• 4 USB 2.0 ports
It does sort of look like the X670 chipset is not worth it, especially since everyone gets the same number of PCIE5 slots for graphics and NVME drives.
Maybe worth it if you want a lot of usb ports, it's also possible that there won't be any B650/B650E boards that support USB 4 (v1).
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Soldato
Cheers, good to know.
Didn't A#20 boards have restrictions?
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They didn't restrict any overclocking on b550 and won't either on b650 but intel equivalent are locked
B650 MSI info here:
wccftech.com
Budget & Mainstream Friendly AMD B650 Motherboards Prices Revealed, Starting at $199 US
The very first AMD B650 motherboards from MSI have been listed by US retailer, B&H, with prices starting at just $199 US.
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Mechanical side of the build complete - now to migrate everything across from what is now my son's PC.
A far cry from the $125 we were told then?B650 MSI info here:
Budget & Mainstream Friendly AMD B650 Motherboards Prices Revealed, Starting at $199 US
The very first AMD B650 motherboards from MSI have been listed by US retailer, B&H, with prices starting at just $199 US.
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Soldato
$200 mobo is budget.....
Obviously we don't know how much boards from other companies will cost. ASRock is likely to offer some cheap (but not necessarily good) boards. I wonder if there will be boards with no wifi?
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Why wouldn't you be as it works just as well as ddr5 while costing less?
if I was planning on keeping system for good number of few years personally would prefer DDR5
Yeah, its a pretty obvious decision for a new platform. It would be a more difficult decision for AMD if Intel hadn't already adopted DDR5 on LGA1700.
People who complain about DDR5 prices are mostly people who already have 32GB of RAM installed in their PCs, which isn't very many people.
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If going DDR5 now you need to spend almost £300 to get 32gb of anything decent vs half that for a decent set of b-die. The performance difference between either is negligible while the B-die will likely hold its value more for resale compared to today's top DDR5.