The X570 version I had was less than that.What's gigabyte smoking. It's a B series at £440.
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What's gigabyte smoking. It's a B series at £440.
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Absolutely shocking board and price. What are they smoking this gen?
Not even a proper 2nd PCIE slot, a x4 PCIE 4.0 ...
And it has that garbage network adapter Intel I225V.
I guess the VRMs, memory slots and M2 slots will be okay I guess.
Everyone kept banging on how AMD were better value since you don't need to change the board but to make up the that the manufacturers are now just charging double for the boards so any saving is out the window.
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That depends if you are silly and buy an expensive motherboard.
I reckon its abit of a sales strat, to get rid of AMDs old stock without having to reduce prices. Once Ryzen 5000 series is all gone, I bet prices will drop on the latest stuff.
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Not double, ddr5 and board also need to handle a 16 core cpu is a likely reason for some added costs.
vs what I bought 2 years ago, its 100euro difference, not 200.
zen4, with x3D next year is likely to be the generation system to have for gamers
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I paid £90 for a B450 tomahawk which can also run a 16 core CPU but now the cheapest B650 is £220+ So over double
Also what's the point of over engineering the VRM on all boards AM5 boards to run 12 /16 cores as most buyers just want something that will handle 6/8 cores at 140w which clearly a cheap VRM on the £90 tomahawk was capable of.
But the 12900k is a year old and is significantly faster than the 7700x in pretty much everything.AMD with there crazy Canadian prices.I fell for there expensive gear and this was the result,by the way I am 100% satisfied with the AMD gear. Also this is just normal PC Gaming gear I buy for personal use.
Actual receipts of AMD AM5 Gear- CPU/Motherboard/32GB Ram -My cost $1359.38
Actual receipts of Intel 12th Gen Gear- CPU/Motherboard/32GB Ram -My cost $1470.87
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The biggest problem is mobo manafacturers and their pricing. Steadily they kept raising the prices, it all started back in 2018 with the z390. You used to get the high end boards for 200-250 euros, now they start at 600 and go all the way to 800+.
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The steel legend prices seems ok relative to the rest, but their bios needs a complete revamp.
Multithreaded software generally yes, games, no. The 7700X is frequently ahead in minimum framerates. Also, one of these CPUs uses much less power, which for people with just a 650w power supply (like me), this is an important factor.
Cooling matters too, it looks like with my air cooler, I will get better temps after PBO2 has been setup.
The prices of the 12900k are just too high for many, even at this point. The 7700X is cheaper than the 12900 (non-x). Also, now you can buy a (relatively) cheaper motherboard supporting CPU overclocking, especially compared to upcoming unlocked Z790 motherboards.
The 13700 non x should be interesting, from a price/performance point of view, especially combined with a B series motherboard (assuming a capable VRM). I personally think AMD will need non X versions of their CPUs to compete on price with Intel, in 2023.
I think perhaps people are assuming that Zen 4 CPUs are being produced in the same level of volumes (despite the new 5nm EUV process?) as 12th and 13th gen Intel CPUs. I find that unlikely at this point, hopefully it will be true by next year.
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Core i9-13900K Creeps Behind Ryzen 9 7950X In Blender Benchmarks
Raptor Lake vs. Zen 4
Looks like for high MT workloads the 7950X will still beat the 13900K despite having less cores. Even the 7900X beats the 13700K.
Nobody answered my question <insert sad face>If a DDR5 module kit is listed on a QVL list, does it mean the RAM will definitely work on a motherboard, at the XMP rated speeds?
For example, this board:
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Which supports lots of different XMP modules from Kingston and Teamgroup.
Starting from nothing, gaming only. 7700X?
Or the cheaper one with a view to upgrading to the 3D one when it is released.
I know waiting is the go-to call for this kind of stuff but I would actually like one before Christmas I've decided.
Or the cheaper one with a view to upgrading to the 3D one when it is released.
I know waiting is the go-to call for this kind of stuff but I would actually like one before Christmas I've decided.
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If going X3D, just wait for that model. It's not that far off.
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I did a ninja edit just after you replied about wanting before xmas. I'm thinking if I get the 7600X I may find that it is actually fine, or due to the lower cost, I may lose less when I sell it.
Good point, could be the case. What a pickle. I was thinking to 'just' get AM4 and save a load of money but I am at that stage where I cba changing parts too much so would want to get 4+ years out of the mobo+cpu, GPU not too much of a faff as I've decided against full WC setup.
Even though I know that a 5800X3D and DDR4 is going to be perfectly fine for years.
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They will sell them as soon as they are able to. These models should make lots of money...
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