New tech usually takes at least 6-12 months to have a substantial discount. 7950X has been out what, 7 weeks, and had a price cut of 20%. These can't have been selling at all, vs the competition from 12th/13th gen.
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New tech usually takes at least 6-12 months to have a substantial discount. 7950X has been out what, 7 weeks, and had a price cut of 20%. These can't have been selling at all, vs the competition from 12th/13th gen.
Top CPU's selling figures at a very large retailer have just 1 13th Gen chip (8th - 13600KF), 2 12th gen (10th - 12700K, 12th - 12400F) and 1 11th Gen (11th - 11700K) in the top 15. 9 ZEN 3 CPU's at 1st to 6th a ZEN 4 7700K in 7th and 7950X at 13th. Thats 11 to 4 top sellers in AMD's favour. Do you not just hate it when facts do not match your hyperbole
maybe the wrong time for this,
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Intel Price Hike To Affect Upcoming CPUs, Motherboard Chipsets & Other Components In Q4, Up To 20% Increase
Intel's upcoming price hike is not only going to affect CPUs but motherboard chipsets too which can lead to higher prices for 700-series.
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Good to see more realistic prices. Hopefully they hold. Being an early adopter is always a risk. No room for tears.
maybe the wrong time for this,
Intel Price Hike To Affect Upcoming CPUs, Motherboard Chipsets & Other Components In Q4, Up To 20% Increase
Intel's upcoming price hike is not only going to affect CPUs but motherboard chipsets too which can lead to higher prices for 700-series.
Wafers be expensive
A17 Bionic Might Become Costly to Produce as TSMC's 3nm Wafer Prices Cross $20,000, Forcing iPhone 15 to Be Sold Expensively
Apple’s A17 Bionic could be costly to mass produce with TSMC’s 3nm wafer prices picking up, crossing the $20,000 threshold
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You can buy the ASRock B650 PG Lightning for ~£180 now (when it's actually back in stock).
So far, it's been a good motherboard, at least when updated to the latest firmware.
This is roughly the same price as the Z690 DDR5 Phantom Gaming and Riptide boards (the cheapest DDR5 Intel boards)
2x16GB DDR5 6000 MT/s CL32 modules now available for ~£200.
So far, it's been a good motherboard, at least when updated to the latest firmware.
This is roughly the same price as the Z690 DDR5 Phantom Gaming and Riptide boards (the cheapest DDR5 Intel boards)
2x16GB DDR5 6000 MT/s CL32 modules now available for ~£200.
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Wafers be expensive
Interesting isn't it. A TSMC 3nm wafer will cost roughly 2x the amount to produce as a TSMC 7nm wafer.
I bet TSMC's 4nm tech will be like a more expensive version of their 5nm tech - AMD has already confirmed this is what will be used for Zen 5 CPUs.
Not if you want a good/capable one.
I would imagine motherboard prices will fall a bit more when B760 DDR5 motherboards release in January (£150?). So, if people want the best deal, they should wait until then.
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AMD Ryzen 7000 CPUs get official 'New Low Prices' on AMD webstore - VideoCardz.com
AMD Ryzen 7000 get significant price cuts on official webstore AMD has now implemented the same prices for its Zen4 desktop CPUs as Newegg and Amazon on their own official US webstore. The company has now followed other big retailers who were the first to offer desktop Ryzen 7000 series at...
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Seems like an official price cut to the 7000 series cpus and not just a so called black Friday deals.
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It needed it as Intel competition is strong. This was not a zen 3 moment for AMD.
I don't think the CPU's cost were the problem (though it didn't help) as it's mostly the massive increase in chipset/RAM pricing that are making it an agitating upgrade. The benefit of a long-supported platform (thus accepting a higher initial price) is largely not going to entice consumers either as that requires shops to actually educate their customers or for the customers to be enthusiasts in the first place to acknowledge it.
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Another consideration is Zen4 is AMD's first DDR5 IO die. And 6000Mhz it where it's at. (6200-6400MHz for the golden chips) So how much life does your Ram kit get? For the buyer that has to have the best 1 or 2 CPU's down the road might turn into a ram upgrade too.
It's the IF limit on these first gen DDR5 capable SKU's, it tops out at 2133. But 2133 is not going to happen on every CPU. There's a reason AMD keep recommending DDR5 6000, it's to keep parity with the ratio's and run the IF at 2000. At 6200 that's when you're in 2133 territory. 6200+ without dropping ratio's is beyond this first gen. This might even drag into Zen 5, remains to be seen
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True but you'll be paying crazy money for something you can't make full use of. Better buying 6000Mhz ish and selling it down the line as they faster kits will be far more available and cheaper by then.
2x16GB 6800 MT/s kits are available for £300 now (all 10ns or less latency I think). I don't think it will take too long for 7200 MT/s kits to come down to this price. 6-12 months.
But, I think there's still a way to go with DDR5 speeds, much better to wait. 8000 MT/s + seems likely in the next 1-2 years.
But, I think there's still a way to go with DDR5 speeds, much better to wait. 8000 MT/s + seems likely in the next 1-2 years.
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Corsair LPX is £84.99 or £90.99 (3200/ 3600MHz) 2X16GB kits today. Not the best ram but makes DDR5 a hard sell.
Looks like DDR5 8000 MT/s kits will be available fairly soon:
www.kitguru.net
Not sure if they are rated to run at 1.4v or 1.45v though.
Seems pretty likely AMD will support these speeds in the future (probably higher), with Zen 5. Meanwhile, we have Intel still running 4800 and above DDR5 modules on gear 2
G.Skill launches DDR5-8000 Trident Z5 memory - KitGuru
A couple of weeks ago, G.Skill teased that its first 8GHz DDR5 memory kits were almost ready for lau
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Not sure if they are rated to run at 1.4v or 1.45v though.
Seems pretty likely AMD will support these speeds in the future (probably higher), with Zen 5. Meanwhile, we have Intel still running 4800 and above DDR5 modules on gear 2
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Looks like DDR5 8000 MT/s kits will be available fairly soon:
G.Skill launches DDR5-8000 Trident Z5 memory - KitGuru
A couple of weeks ago, G.Skill teased that its first 8GHz DDR5 memory kits were almost ready for lau
Not sure if they are rated to run at 1.4v or 1.45v though.
Seems pretty likely AMD will support these speeds in the future (probably higher), with Zen 5. Meanwhile, we have Intel still running 4800 and above DDR5 modules on gear 2