Yup, save that extra put it on a ton of Haribo!
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*** AMD "Zen 4" thread (inc AM5/APU discussion) ***
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Yup, save that extra put it on a ton of Haribo!
True, be interesting to see if it gets cheaper when the x3d CPUs come out. But now I'm looking at possibly saving about £30 on the CPU with the 7600 and thanks to the previous poster with the table in memory performance I was looking at the 6000 ddr5 for £200 now I'm looking at 5600 ddr5 for £150 that's £80 saving towards a GPU.
Personally I'm playing the long game. I'm trying to get on the AM5 platform with a decent motherboard and any GPU and CPU I pick will be a big upgrade for from my 6700k and 1080 GPU. Then in a few years when the final CPU for AM5 comes out I can buy that along with whatever good card is out then, depending on if the motherboard supports with its bios updates.
I never knew that buying haribo required that much planning
So you dont buy direct from amd and buy from a distributor? I thought ocuk bought these cpus in at 100k units per model direct from manufacturers?
AMD don't sell direct to resellers, neither does Intel. They sell in 1k plus volumes into distribution at USD, the distributor then adds it margin and sells to the reseller, AKA OcUK.
Not sure if your serious or not as 100k of just say a 7950X would be 50M on just one line, even the mighty Amazon cannot and does not buy that many, in fact I doubt even AMD has that many, lol.
You can still find the X versions at those prices.
It does seem like the non X variants are the way to go if using an air cooler:
www.techpowerup.com
I get 5.25ghz all core in CPUz bench, with Curve Optimiser at -15 (all cores) on a 7700X with a high end air cooler.
So, there's really very little in it (I guess people with good AIO coolers will say otherwise), but these are rather expensive and not the most reliable.
The only reason I might not recommend a non X variant, is that they may struggle to run at 5Ghz all core in some cases (and you can likely get a used 7700X for less money).
AMD Ryzen 7 7700 Review - Affordable Zen 4 Powerhouse
The Ryzen 7 7700 is AMD's most affordable eight-core Zen 4 processor. For $330 you even get a good cooler included that features RGB illumination. Performance data in our review confirms that the 7700 non-X offers pretty much the same performance as the 7700X.
I get 5.25ghz all core in CPUz bench, with Curve Optimiser at -15 (all cores) on a 7700X with a high end air cooler.
So, there's really very little in it (I guess people with good AIO coolers will say otherwise), but these are rather expensive and not the most reliable.
The only reason I might not recommend a non X variant, is that they may struggle to run at 5Ghz all core in some cases (and you can likely get a used 7700X for less money).
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It does seem like the non X variants are the way to go if using an air cooler:
AMD Ryzen 7 7700 Review - Affordable Zen 4 Powerhouse
The Ryzen 7 7700 is AMD's most affordable eight-core Zen 4 processor. For $330 you even get a good cooler included that features RGB illumination. Performance data in our review confirms that the 7700 non-X offers pretty much the same performance as the 7700X.
I get 5.25ghz all core in CPUz bench, with Curve Optimiser at -15 (all cores) on a 7700X with a high end air cooler.
So, there's really very little in it (I guess people with good AIO coolers will say otherwise), but these are rather expensive and not the most reliable.
The only reason I might not recommend a non X variant, is that they may struggle to run at 5Ghz all core in some cases (and you can likely get a used 7700X for less money).
What air cooler are you running?
Just noticed the prices on OcUK for the non-x 7000 series is now live.
7600 - £239.99
7700 - £338.99
7900 - £439.99
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The 7700x was cheaper than the non x through most of December.
Did notice and no doubt will be again soon.
Easily surely, one of the best air coolers you can get.
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Indeed. Waiting seems sensible here. They've had to up the X prices to allow the non-Xs make sense.
Also the X3Ds might make both the other flavours not make sense again
I've read somewhere that the one bundled with the 7700 is a bit underspecced. Dunno about the 7900, but you'd hope they'd have stepped up to a beefier one! Need to find some proper reviews of them with stock cooling, if it's "good enough" and not too loud, that's actually a significant amount of added value
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Probably will drop there pretty quick I'd have thought, the 13600K is still a good chunk sub £400 and competes with it relatively well and the 13700k is sub £400 at the moment.
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Although it's likely to be a poorly optimised console port with millions of microtransactions.