Soldato
Ha ha I've just noticed 4K8K got himself permabaned
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*** AMD "Zen 4" thread (inc AM5/APU discussion) ***
Soldato
Could be Zen 4 might not be much of an upgrade over Zen 3 and possibly lose to alder lake, they mention better gaming performance for Zen 4 3D only. Why would anyone invest in the 6 and 8 core parts when they have 3D on the way, they would have to be really well priced.
Caporegime
I wouldn't read too much into not mentioning gaming performance on none 3D chips, its just an intro highlighting headlines.
Associate
Let’s get this hype train started.
All aboard…. Choooo…chooo…
All aboard…. Choooo…chooo…
Soldato
Oh dear, check out the pricing.
videocardz.com
AMD Ryzen 7000 pricing leaks ahead of launch, Ryzen 9 7950X reportedly for 699 USD - VideoCardz.com
AMD Ryzen 7000 pricing leaked, very similar to 5000 series Wccftech claims to have learned the prices of the upcoming desktop Zen4 CPUs. AMD Ryzen 7000 series are to be officially announced in 12 hours, but even this close to launch the information is not fully known. At least it wasn’t until...
videocardz.com
Caporegime
WCCF and videocardz (Same thing) should be banned from the forum 
Nah, they should just be considered as sources of entertainment where averaging the speculation might give some hints.WCCF and videocardz (Same thing) should be banned from the forum
In the end, barring spectacular failures (like Intel 11th gen) we do know new get has better performance than old gen, what remains to be seen is if performance per dollar improves or not.
Sites like that needs to publish constantly to guarantee advertisment views, so if they have any worthy material they will publish "leaked slides" 2 minutes before if they can.
I meant in here
Soldato
My oh my. If those are the actual prices... Yikes. Its been 6 years in a row that they kept the same corecount, now if they also establish these crazy prices for the 6 core and 8 core parts...its a disaster.Oh dear, check out the pricing.
AMD Ryzen 7000 pricing leaks ahead of launch, Ryzen 9 7950X reportedly for 699 USD - VideoCardz.com
AMD Ryzen 7000 pricing leaked, very similar to 5000 series Wccftech claims to have learned the prices of the upcoming desktop Zen4 CPUs. AMD Ryzen 7000 series are to be officially announced in 12 hours, but even this close to launch the information is not fully known. At least it wasn’t until...
300 for a 6 core part and 450 for an 8 core should be illegal.
Soldato
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I don’t see the issue. While everyone jacked up prices due to inflation and component costs, they’re going with same as 5000 series launch.
you saying it like that means the performance isnt gonna be improved ?? if its the same core count ??? correct if wrong wasnt Zen3 a great success ?
Soldato
Ampere was all a huge sucess, doesnt mean the prices were right.
Your competitor went from 4 threads to 20 in the same amount of time while amd have stayed on 12 threads while jacking up the prices by 50%. Yikes
Intel up their prices, AMD keep the same prices yet AMD are the bad guys, maybe you should wait on performance figures first
Ampere was all a huge sucess because they have the mindshare ? and better RT ?? so how did AMD manage it with the CPU ??
wheres this 50% price increase you keep going on about ??
Zen (first generation) - Wikipedia
Zen 3 - Wikipedia
Soldato
Cheapest 6 core used to be 200 from 2017 to 2019. Then it became 300 both for the launch of zen 3 and zen 4. The same applies for the 8core models (300 to 450).Ampere was all a huge sucess because they have the mindshare ? and better RT ?? so how did AMD manage it with the CPU ??
wheres this 50% price increase you keep going on about ??
Zen (first generation) - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
Zen 3 - Wikipedia
Thats a 50% increase btw.
If you think 6 cores for 300 at the end of 2022 is a good price then more power to you, you can buy one and be happy about it. To me it looks like a scam
Don
I think new sockets every other generation and E cores are a scam, but each to their own
Soldato
Then you would be wrong. How can something that increases both single and mt perfromance be a scam?I think new sockets every other generation and E cores are a scam, but each to their own
Regarding sockets, what new sockets every 2 generations serve is to not cause the confusion and the delays that am4 caused. We went literally on a roller coaster on whether or not x370 and x470 will get support and when. Id rather change my mobo then have to wait for 2 years for my now 5 year old motherboard to get support for the now outdated cpus. Cause thats exactly what happened with my b350 and zen 3. Intel offers support for cpus day one, not day seven hundred and twenty like amd does.
I can put raptor lake on my z690 the day raptor lake is released. I could put a zen 3 on my "supported" am4 700 days after release. So amd is what, 70.000% slower in bios updates..