*** AMD "Zen 4" thread (inc AM5/APU discussion) ***

[Bencher]

it was too show how efficent the 7950x was when matching the 12900k score , no need to get panties in a twist

Out of the box it's less efficient than the 5950x, yes?

 

[Journey]

Out of the box it's less efficient than the 5950x, yes?

You are definitely not efficient, blowing so much hot air all the time.

 

[humbug]

You are definitely not efficient, blowing so much hot air all the time.

Intel Inside®

 

[DarkFulgore]

MSI's pricing is appalling. I know x670 isn't the mainstream boards, but do AMD honestly expect AM5 to have any adoption rate. New CPU, Mobo and RAM is going to be a huge pill to swallow. Same with 40 series, i see these launches becoming flops.

 

[humbug]

My Thunderbird client of just a scrolling wall of reply notifications to this thread.

 

[cliffy]

Out of the box it's less efficient than the 5950x, yes?

You know that was not the point of his post but are just being aggrevating. You cannot help yourself.

 

[Kamakazie!]

I like the look of the 7700 @ 65w for a mITX build for a mix of gaming & productivity. Nice upgrade to my aging 4770 build!

I'll wait for prices to cool down a bit though. One for January.

 

[lsg1r]

how many people in this thread are a 2d/3d artist. How many 2d/3d artists watch silly youtubers.

Waves

Cinebench is a relatively easy way to gauge performance in my 3D apps if they use all cores, higher scores means faster renders and if you have a benchmark from something you use already you can use a bit of simple maths (it's basically linear scaling) to work out roughly what real world time benefits would be.


Honestly from what I've seen, I'm not disappointed that I bought a 5950x and chose to skip 'first gen am5'... Performance for the increase in hardware cost just doesn't seem worth it imo.

My home office can already get unbearably hot in summer and higher cpu load temps won't help that, especially if you end up having a high end gpu kicking out heat as well.

 

[keyser van someone]

oh right yeah all the reviews landed! sounds like the Second Coming of Christ. but a bit warm

 

[TrixP10]

Ιt literally cannot run at 260w stock. The power limit is at 240 and it doesn't max that in CBR23, but that depends on the mobo. Mine uses around 220 at stock.

If you're interested in how wonderfully efficient the 12600k / 12900k are then Tom's review is up.

AMD Ryzen 9 7950X and Ryzen 5 7600X Review: A Return to Gaming Dominance

DDR5, PCIe 5.0, 5nm, AM5, and 5.7 GHz

www.tomshardware.com

 

[keyser van someone]

don't worry, if you're worried about running at 115C, there is a setting for a shivering 95C! lol

 

[TrixP10]

don't worry, if you're worried about running at 115C, there is a setting for a shivering 95C! lol

Intel exclusive?

 

[Rockbox]

Linus review said that 5800x3d is better for gaming. 6 and 8 cores are also around 12700/12900ks performance, with the real stars being the 12 and 16 cores. Seems to be a wide margin ahead for productivity.

TBH, I'm glad they poured water on it. I was itching to upgrade, but now I see the sense in others who said they'd wait for zen 5 or the 3d cache versions, because the 7600x doesn't look that compelling.

 

[Bencher]

If you're interested in how wonderfully efficient the 12600k / 12900k are then Tom's review is up.

AMD Ryzen 9 7950X and Ryzen 5 7600X Review: A Return to Gaming Dominance

DDR5, PCIe 5.0, 5nm, AM5, and 5.7 GHz

www.tomshardware.com

I know how efficient 12900 is. 24.5k CBR23 at 125w (stock PL1). Just a tad less efficient than the 5950x at stock. Granted, out of the box is kind of irrelevant, at least for me, but it's actually a fact that in CBR23 the 12900k at stock PL1 is more efficient than the 7950x at stock.

 

[=XDC=FluphyBunny]

Did AMD just release a CPU that's slower in gaming and productivity than a year old 12600k while also costing more?

Tech power up is garbage. So many of their results are GPU bound as they only used a 3080

 

[Tired9]

Tech power up is garbage. So many of their results are GPU bound as they only used a 3080

Yeah that's a completely different set of results to everyone else, WTF were TPU thinking?

 

[LtMatt]

Tech power up is garbage. So many of their results are GPU bound as they only used a 3080

I couldn't understand their results, didn't realise they only tested with a 3080.

 

[brostradamus]

You know, there was a time when tech journalists used to say 150 watts was too much for a CPU, that 200 watts was insane, and anyone who did that got ridiculed for it.

Now few of them even seem to care enough when one of them is clearly just taking the pee and ignore the other who seems to be getting it right, what's more they all jump on the environment bandwagon when that suits them, just not for this...

buy a full tower and get with the program

Tech power up is garbage. So many of their results are GPU bound as they only used a 3080

they did some tests on 720p doesnt look like a great product for gaming.. not with those rumored motherboard prices, maybe they should have tested more rts games, but clearly i would wait for what intel has to offer

 

[Goates]

As someone who is building a rig primarily for MSFS, it looks like I am going 5800X3d unless raptor lake has anything to tempt me.

 

[Bencher]

Tech power up is garbage. So many of their results are GPU bound as they only used a 3080

They used a 3080 at 720p. That's better than running a 3090ti at 1080p like hwunboxed. So wtf are you talking about? LOL