Did AMD just release a CPU that's slower in gaming and productivity than a year old 12600k while also costing more?78.6% vs 100%.
I didn't bother with the maths and i thought i would over estimate so you didn't come back at me with idiotic circular math reasoning.
But you did anyway so i will do the maths.
100 / 78.6 = 1.272 (+27.2%)
Can we stop this, please? i don't want my list of people to ignore to grow too long and i like the banter we sometimes have between us....
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*** AMD "Zen 4" thread (inc AM5/APU discussion) ***
Caporegime
They did ^^^
Its not a bad idea, i run lower setting for some games because in those i prefer high frame rates.
I know what you're saying, neither one of us is exactly right so lets just move on...
Its not a bad idea, i run lower setting for some games because in those i prefer high frame rates.
I know what you're saying, neither one of us is exactly right so lets just move on...
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You do not know the 13600K performance figures yet do ytou though thats the point. Fact is when Gaming at 1440P or 4k whether you have a Zen3, 4, Intel 12th gen or 13th gen it is going to make little difference over all. Only factor is if you require something with good MT performance in which case you get 7950x
Soldato
And an even longer wait for the 3D chips, had a feeling that would happen anyway.
Caporegime
Longer compared to what? the 5800X3D?
Some of you are talking rubbish, look at the Anandtech review:
www.anandtech.com
they are trustworthy.
so are techspot.
AMD Zen 4 Ryzen 9 7950X and Ryzen 5 7600X Review: Retaking The High-End
they are trustworthy.
so are techspot.
Supposedly getting announced at CES in the first week of Jan iirc, with them bringing 3 versions: 7950X3D, 7900X3D & 7800X3D.
I think it works to our advantage really, we've got a few months of Ryzen 7000 & AM4 release into the wild for any significant issues to present themselves, plus we'd hopefully have stock & prices settled so its not a case of buying whatever you can get your hands on.
It looks very good. I think anyone with a 5000 processor is going to struggle to justify it, but only because its was good investment then, and is still a good investment today. Theres not a huge gain to be had when you've got to buy a new Mobo & RAM, its probably better to kick the can down the road till the next generation and see a bump that justifies the expense.
That said, anyone making the switch has the ability to sell their old system, im tired of seeing arguments made for it being poor value needing to buy 3 new items vs 1 CPU, and then ignoring the resell value of the unwanted components.
Yeap absolutely no point buying the 6 and 8 for gaming just wait for the 3DX, the 12 and 16 cores make sense if you do some gaming alongside productivity.
Caporegime
Nice, I forgot all about anandtech.Some of you are talking rubbish, look at the Anandtech review:
AMD Zen 4 Ryzen 9 7950X and Ryzen 5 7600X Review: Retaking The High-End
they are trustworthy.
so are techspot.
Caporegime
Some of you are talking rubbish, look at the Anandtech review:
AMD Zen 4 Ryzen 9 7950X and Ryzen 5 7600X Review: Retaking The High-End
they are trustworthy.
so are techspot.
Reviewing CPU's to how it is in their opinion representative to reality is one thing, but it is an opinion, not a ####'ing CPU review.
If i want to know how fast a CPU actually is comparatively i go to someone with a technical, not journalistic, mind.
That has always been AnandTech.
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Soldato
Ιt's not really slower in gaming, they are really close / trade blows depending on the game suite used. Productivity yeah, it's bad. The 13600k will probably wipe the floor with it in both games and productivity.
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Anyone know what the idle/low load power consumption is like for Zen 4? Checked a few reviews but didn't see it mentioned. Interested to know if the 6nm process is much of an improvement over the gas guzzling 12nm I/O die in Zen 3.
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Caporegime
Show us exactly where productivity is "bad".
Oh no don't please...... he will #### this thread up good'n proper
Caporegime
Is that 88 watts Package power? because if it is that explains the 65 watt 30K points ECO mode, the CPU is locked to 65 watts, that's doesn't include the IO die and power rail efficiency looses.
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because nobody games at 720p. its a completely pointless metric like cinebench.
Caporegime
Cinebench isn't pointless if you're a 2D / 3D artist, why do you think it exists? Its so people can gauge their performance in Cinema 4D
Low res performance testing has its uses too.