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AMD Zen 5 rumours
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What does AM5 support actually mean? Does it mean that future new generations beyond Zen5 will be supported or does it mean they will continue to release CPUs that fit a AM5 socket ( because AMD are still supporting AM4 right now by releasing new CPUs that fit the socket)?
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Yeah means nothing. Could just mean firmware updates for existing parts.
AMD have only committed to releasing Zen5 on AM5, no promises on anything further. Zen6 could be AM6, or it could be AM5, we just don't know at this point.
Caporegime
He said they are "committing to the AM5 socket to 2025 and beyond" so they are not changing the socket in 2025, Zen 5 will be on AM5.
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Zen 5 is out in 2024, Zen 6 i doubt will be out till 2026 so probably be a new socket. They are still committed to AM4 with new CPu's still being released on the platform and firmware upgrades being releasedHe said they are "committing to the AM5 socket to 2025 and beyond" so they are not changing the socket in 2025, Zen 5 will be on AM5.
AMD’s David McAfee on the Future of PC Hardware and the Impact of AI on Product Development
In this video Briony Interviews AMD's Corporate Vice president and General Manager of Client Channel Business, David Mcafee. Topics covered include Threadrip...
He said they are "committing to the AM5 socket to 2025 and beyond" so they are not changing the socket in 2025, Zen 5 will be on AM5.
AMD’s David McAfee on the Future of PC Hardware and the Impact of AI on Product Development
In this video Briony Interviews AMD's Corporate Vice president and General Manager of Client Channel Business, David Mcafee. Topics covered include Threadrip...
And AMD have said the same thing multiple times before, that's why we're confused by their constant press statements that don't promise anything new but are put out for marketing
Is ddr6 available for servers yet? Thats a good way to know when desktop will get it, as new memory will be available for a servers 1/2 years before desktop. For example ddr5 for servers went on sale in October 2020 but we didn't get AM5 motherboards that can use ddr5 until September 2022, nearly 2 years later
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This is completely wrong. DDR5 was first utilized by Intel 12th gen, many years before it was used in servers.
Could be the reverse for DDR6, though certainly no precedent that guarantees servers get it first.
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DDR5 became available for sale in October 2020, Intel 12th Gen launched 1 year later. So again even if ddr6 launches in 2025 doesn't mean we'll have consumer products that support it, until later
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Do you have any proof for that? To my knowledge Intel 12th was the first platform to utilise ddr5, before the servers. It was quite hard to get ddr5 on alder lake launch because manufacturers were not really prepared.
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I googled and you are actually right. Renesas made some data buffer compatible with ddr5 back in 2020.
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Caporegime
New CPU's for AM4 were still being released this year, 6 years after launch.
To say we shouldn't trust what they say because they have said it multiple times before is not a good faith argument, they supported AM4 for longer than they promised.
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What are you even talking about, I don't say they are lying, nor was I talking about am4. All I said AMD has said they are supporting AM5 to at least 2025 since AM5 was launched, and they repeat the same multiple times in different press statements since. And their statement just says we'll try longer 25 if we can, but doesn't promise anything and leaves room to easily launch AM6 with a new socket in 2026 and just blame needing extra pins or something.
As for trusting AMD, lmao, you guys never learn do you. Don't trust any business based on verbal off the cuff claims, if you do that you're a fool. The only time you can trust the process is when you have a legal contract and can sue the counter party.
"Trust me bro" is not a valid legal contract
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There at least two good reasons to think AM5 will be around for a few years.
1) past actions backed up by the statements of AMD
and 2) AMD are no doubt aware that a large part of the appeal of their platforms is their better track record for longevity vs Intel.
AMD know how vulnerable they are to Intel and won't likely want to squander the good will they have built up with AM4
With Intel's record on the matter frankly being quite a shameless record of all too often forcing motherboard upgrades on their consumer customers for no reason that benefitted the customers overall
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Soldato
They will remember the uproar when they tried to end support for B350 boards. Wouldn't make sense to go through that again, although they are in a far superior position now so could get away with it.
please don't say this, I am just about to upgrade whole system to ddr5 motherboard/cpu.
when roughly can we expect new cup and motherboards, i have not kept up with this stuff for a while?
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Don
Can't see DDR6 being 2025 - even Micron haven't got DDR6 on their roadmap (that goes up to 2028)
Micron just announced a 128GB DDR5 module and a roadmap — but the bigger news is that you probably won't be able to buy DDR6 till at least 2029
This is a year later than we’d have previously expected DDR6 to be ready for distribution
www.techradar.com
I wouldn't worry too much, DDR3 was introduced in 2007, DDR4 was 2014 and DDR5 was 2020. Adoption and useful life lags way behind, there are still people building DDR4 systems today.
The point is, Zen 6 MIGHT move to DDR6 it's not a certainty and should be the only reason to move on from supporting the AM5 platform.
OK, had a look Samsung are planning on 2026-27
Samsung announces roadmap: DDR6 will exceed 10Gbps in 2027
Samsung announces roadmap: DDR6 will exceed 10Gbps in 2027. These are only projections and may not necessarily happen.
www.gizchina.com
There's probably some life in AM5 yet
AM5 is only guaranteed Zen5, nothing more. They could keep "supporting" it for years after Zen5's release, with new APU's, but still with Zen5 cores and nothing more.
Zen6 may be AM6 only (in 2026-2027 I presume). Or AMD may launch Zen6 on AM5, but as they haven't publicly committed to this yet, I very much doubt it.
Zen6 may be AM6 only (in 2026-2027 I presume). Or AMD may launch Zen6 on AM5, but as they haven't publicly committed to this yet, I very much doubt it.